Even taking that into consideration his goal record is very average, not what we need really.Quote:
Originally Posted by Darth Vela
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Even taking that into consideration his goal record is very average, not what we need really.Quote:
Originally Posted by Darth Vela
At Birmingham? At 18? Whilst putting in great performances? That's pretty damn great imo.Quote:
Originally Posted by ItsMe
Fuck stats, I saw him play over here with my own eyes, the guy has talent and if he's available for 10m would be worth a punt.Quote:
Originally Posted by ItsMe
He was 21 so year still not that great, plus has 1 in 4 for Lazio not exactly a great finisher. Don't really care for stikers running around doing everything but shooting at goal, we've had enough of those.Quote:
Originally Posted by Darth Vela
No thanks, goals matter no poncy play outside the box.Quote:
Originally Posted by Darth Vela
Didn't you also rate Chamakh who you saw play, we know how that's turned out.
Not being able to deal with Zarate was one of the reasons we fucked up at Birmingham in THAT game in 07/08.
Very lively player, not sure what he's done since then but from what I remember if he's managed to develop that raw talent he had then he wouldn't be a bad signing.
DV :rose:
Your Chamakh posts on here will haunt you for the rest of your life.
It doesn't say that though. It says "Quite why Wenger would want the former Birmingham striker is anyones guess"Quote:
Originally Posted by Jam Persie
Basically it's saying Zarate is shit not that we don't need a striker.
Yeah, me and the 95% of the gooner fan base that look at actual performances and not price-tags, the guys been in shocking form for a while now but denying the good he did before that is simply retarded.Quote:
Originally Posted by ItsMe
I didn't know he was 21, that's slightly less impressive but the fact remains that the guy was a handful when he played here, he wasn't quite as shot-shy as you've inferred from his stats either. Could well be he's simply not developed well, or it could be that he's not suited to Serie A which would make sense given that it's very different to the Prem, doubt it's gonna happen though so probably not worth picking over his career when it doesn't matter. :)
He's behind Djibril Cisse and a 33-yo Klose at the moment so he's still very much a project player imo.Quote:
Originally Posted by Marc Overmars
I know.Quote:
Originally Posted by Boss
It's the Denilson posts I'm more ashamed of though in all honesty, at least Chamakh might get back to being a decent player.
Yeah but have you seen our squad?? Beggars can't be choosers.Quote:
Originally Posted by Boss
Oh well.Quote:
Mata move 2 Chelsea sorted. It's a matter of hours. Clubs agreed fee, 28m, personal terms agreed too. He's very much looking 4ward to it. [Gulliem Ballbag]
Wenger was probably trying to get him on loan.
Cunt.
If he was always right about these things then Mata would be an Arsenal player right now, I don't doubt he'll go to Chelsea though, if we don't get any creative player in and we missed out on Mata, there's something seriously wrong at the club.
We were never going to pay up for Mata, I have no doubt about that.
Wenger won't pay big money for players.
:lol:Quote:
Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn
Wenger on Sky Sports:
So Aguero, Lukaku, Suarez, Mata, Modric - none of these are good enough for us?Quote:
"It's nothing to do with money, just with the quality and availability of the player"
Enough is enough. We have to force this idiot out of our club because he is killing us.
Darth do this team really need anymore Projects though? I mean I'm not suggesting Arsene goes and buys Tevez or Higuain, but should we be not aiming higher seeing as we've gutted the team of experience and 2 of our best players?Quote:
Originally Posted by Darth Vela
I really have no idea what Arsene is doing TBH....It sickens me when I see us linked to more 16 years olds whilst we're doing our best to rid our team of experience and quality....it's pitiful.
Fair point, he's 24 though and I'm sure with his talent and lack of success so far he'll either be hungry for it as he moves into the prime of his career or he'll always be useless, I'm sure it's worth the punt if we think it's worth looking at.
Nah he's staying in spain is mata, he has a new contract and loves it there.Quote:
Originally Posted by Grebbo
Also, it's complete and utter balls that the availability of a player isn't linked to price, Spurs didn't let Modric go for 25m but if someone came in with 50m, he'd be gone.Quote:
Originally Posted by Grebbo
Sucks if he does go to chavs, not to bothered if he stays in spain though. Rather have Hazard anyways.Quote:
Originally Posted by ItsMe
Why didn't we buy him when Spurs did for £15m? Oh yeah because Wenger thought he was too small for the Prem. Plus he'd kill Diaby and Denilson. Oh well.Quote:
Originally Posted by Darth Vela
That isn't happening either, we won't cough up 25 million+ for Hazard.Quote:
Originally Posted by Charlie the Gooner
There's plenty of players we could buy to improve our team, problem is Wenger doesn't think they are super quality and can improve our team even if they are vastly superior to what we have.Quote:
Originally Posted by Grebbo
The fact he undervalues almost every player on the market is also a problem, he expects clubs to sell their prized assets in cut price deals, we may be foolish enough to let our best players go on the cheap....but other clubs aren't.
Even when top players do become available at good prices, he's never in for them. I agree he needs to go.
Barely anyone believes this guy can turn it around, why the f*ck is he still here......I'll tell you why, it's because the board love the money he makes them and couldn't give a toss about what the fans think....money talks.
Booing his vociferously might be a good start in my book, they might get the message if it happens often enough.
I agree on the availabilty, if these players are not available nothing you can do, but disagree what he says on quality, we could have bought all 4 of those playes you mention, if weacted smartly.Quote:
Originally Posted by Grebbo
Its like someone at the top has taken a bet aganst us winning things and has acted to make sure it happens.
Enough is enough. We have to force this idiot out of our club because he is killing us.
I agreed with it at the time tbh, we've needed a little extra bite and power in our team for quite a while and Modric wouldn't have brought that, I do think he's a quality player though and now it seems like a mistake.Quote:
Originally Posted by Grebbo
This, i reckon he'd be a bargin signing tbh and only 24 as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by Darth Vela
http://www.skysports.com/story/0,195...113403,00.htmlQuote:
David Moyes claims Arsenal target Phil Jagielka is happy to stay at Everton unless he is told otherwise.
Jagielka has been the subject of a failed bid from Arsenal this summer as Gunners boss Arsene Wenger looks to bolster his defensive options.
It has been suggested Arsenal might come back with an improved bid for the England international before the transfer window closes, but Moyes insists Jagielka has told him that he will not rock the boat by pushing for a move to Arsenal.
"I have had two or three conversations with Jags and he is up-to-date with everything and anything that has happened," Moyes told the Liverpool Echo.
"He has said to me that, unless it is something Everton want to do, he is not going to be the one who instigates or pushes anything."
"It will only be if Everton want to do it and I certainly don't want to do it."
Fellaini contract
Meanwhile, Moyes has revealed the club are close to agreeing a new contract with midfielder Marouane Fellaini.
Everton have been locked in talks with the Belgian all summer about a contract extension and Moyes is hopeful the deal will be concluded soon.
"I think the chairman is moving much closer to agreeing a deal with Fellaini," added Moyes.
"I think we are moving towards that now. I can't tell you exactly whether it will happen but there have been several conversations and I think we are moving much closer towards that now."
Well that should be that, Just go after Cahill now feck jags tbh
I hear Heskey's available on a free ffs.Quote:
Originally Posted by Grebbo
http://blogs.soccernet.com/onthemove/Quote:
Canal+ claim Samir Nasri's talks with Man City have broken down and that he is now likely to stay at Arsenal.
http://www.goal.com/en-gb/news/2896/...ter-talks-withQuote:
Arsenal midfielder Samir Nasri is set to stay at the Emirates Stadium for the remainder of his contract, according to reports emerging from France.
The Frenchman had been strongly linked with a £22m move to Manchester City before the end of the summer transfer window, but French TV station Canal+ claim that talks have broken down, and Nasri will see out the final year of his contract with Arsenal.
Nasri was a surprise inclusion from the start of Saturday's Premier League encounter at home to Liverpool.
More to follow...
My apologies :good:Quote:
Originally Posted by Save me Jeebus!
Well, not to split hairs, but it does say that. The full quote:Quote:
Originally Posted by Grebbo
"Quite why Wenger would want another striker is anyone's guess and why former Birmingham frontman Zarate in particular is a complete mystery but who knows what goes on in the mind of the nutty professor these days."
Why would Wenger want another striker? Can you guess? If you can manage to figure that crazy notion out, try and figure out why Zarate would be the one Wenger chooses. That's basically the gist of it.
Now I can figure out the first bit, but I just don't know enough about Zarate to figure out why the second bit seems like a complete mystery to the writer (who seems like a bit of a sarky cockface)
Makes sense why he hasn't left yet.Quote:
Originally Posted by Charlie the Gooner
I suppose it's a good thing because Wenger wouldn't have spent the £20m we'd have got for him anyway.
Stan must be pissed though, that was a new boat for him.
£20m boat?Quote:
Originally Posted by Grebbo
That would be quite awesome.
It's pretty cheap for a boat.Quote:
Originally Posted by Master Splinter
That depends on whether the boat is super quality or not.Quote:
Originally Posted by Grebbo
It´s not Wenger´s boat so no worries there. Just a functional boat.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jam Persie
http://www.lifesports.ru/news/67135
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"Arsenal" beckons Honda
The Gunners are going to purchase football capital of CSKA.
Guide London "Arsenal" made a formal offer to buy CSKA 25-year-old Japanese midfielder Keisuke Honda.
- "The Gunners' offer for the Honda about 13 million euros - said a source in the Life Sports camp CSKA. - It is in such an amount estimated at this time a Japanese official data. Initially, management of Londoners also drawn to the army team on another midfielder - Russians Alan Dzagoev. But the leadership of red and blue is not ready to part with their talented player and refused to "Arsenal".
- As for Honda, his transfer is real, as myself and the player wants to leave CSKA, and the club will not let him go away for a good price.
Cause
Active interest in the team Arsene Wenger's midfield players to fully understand.
Londoners in this transfer window has left the main star of the club Francesc Fabregas, who joined in the Catalonian "Barcelona", and in the near future will be fully completed the transition Samir Nasri to another English club - "Manchester City".
- Honda has good potential and the necessary skills to take place at the heart of "Arsenal" - continued the source. - Also in the team competition after the departure of Wenger and Fabregas Nasri markedly decreased. For the most Keisuke it will be a clear step forward. Especially in recent CSKA suits him much more.
Recall that Keisuke Honda stands for metropolitan CSKA since 2010.
His contract with the club designed in 2013.
I'd be happy enough to see us bring in Honda. It's a start to fixing some of the gaps in our team. Zarate maybe would fill the experience gap we have at winger/striker. We'd also be daft now to forego at least one if not two defenders. Absolutely daft.