Good Bye RVP!

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Originally Posted by Syn

I’m finding it hard to be annoyed at either party right now. And I understand if other gooners are annoyed with Van Persie. IMO his statement is bullshit. We’ve brought in two excellent goalscorers to reduce the burden on Robin. But, again, I’m not annoyed with him about that.

But lets get one thing straight - he is a top player right now. Absolutely phenomenal. This ‘a good 18 months out of 8 years’ thing could be used to argue against his loyalty but the last 18 months is the level of footballer he is. Do I think he’ll have another season like the last one? Probably not. But he’ll still be top notch because we’re not talking about his form, we’re talking about ability.

It’s very damaging for the club to lose him. I’m trying not to get annoyed about it - but the one thing that is a little ****ish of Van Persie is to release this statement and make his position clear. Transparency might be seen as a good thing for us fans desperate to know what’s going on but it really doesn’t help the club in negotiations at all.

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There isn't a club out there foolish enough to spend £30m on a player with a year left on his contract. Every club that's interested knows the situation so it hasn't really changed anything in regards to negotiations. In fact, if we continued to bury our heads in the sand and act as if he's staying, then that's a sure way to lose out on money because clubs would just wait it out until he's free. The best thing to do now is to invite a bidding war. That's the only way we're going to get a little extra for him.

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Originally Posted by Alpha

Denying that RVP is not class is not fair at all . RVP is and will remain a top player . He stood by the team when we needed him . We have to respect him as he made his position clear and give the Board enough time to act . The ambition of the team has always been questioned . By the media , the fans , even in this forum voices have raised in that regard . Blaming RVP for his statement is just frustration as usual . let's replace him as soon as we can and move on .

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I agree with this and its better than the Cesc situation. Whats so depressing is that this confirms what many of us knew deep down. Arsenal is now beyond doubt (relatively) small time.

What worries me more is that the people who run our club don't seem to know this, or care.

A part of me does hope he ends up at City. He certainly wouldn't be treated the same as he is here and he'd probably be in and out of the side because Mancini needs to massage all the egos there to keep them happy. He'd regret that move in an instant. Plus we'd probably get a bit more from them in terms of the price.

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Originally Posted by Ice Berg Kamping

I agree with this and its better than the Cesc situation. Whats so depressing is that this confirms what many of us knew deep down. Arsenal is now beyond doubt (relatively) small time.

What worries me more is that the people who run our club don't seem to know this, or care.

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The difference between Cesc and RVP is length of their contracts. Cesc had a long running deal while is down to his final year. If he had 3 more years left to run, I seriously doubt that he'd sit still and wait to see if things would get better here especially if clubs were trying to tap him up.

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Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory

The difference between Cesc and RVP is length of their contracts. Cesc had a long running deal while is down to his final year. If he had 3 more years left to run, I seriously doubt that he'd sit still and wait to see if things would get better here especially if clubs were trying to tap him up.

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What I meant was that RVP's been more transparent earlier.

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Originally Posted by Ice Berg Kamping

I agree with this and its better than the Cesc situation. Whats so depressing is that this confirms what many of us knew deep down. Arsenal is now beyond doubt (relatively) small time.

What worries me more is that the people who run our club don't seem to know this, or care.

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That's sadly the truth . should we blame players who want out for our lack of ambition ? Which top player who like to play for Stoke ? Wigan ? or Fulham ? Yes that is what we are now . More interesting in maintaining ourselves in the premier league than winning anything .Didn't Wenger say last time that being third is just winning a trophy ? I can't see Fergie saying that .

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Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory

There isn't a club out there foolish enough to spend £30m on a player with a year left on his contract. Every club that's interested knows the situation so it hasn't really changed anything in regards to negotiations. In fact, if we continued to bury our heads in the sand and act as if he's staying, then that's a sure way to lose out on money because clubs would just wait it out until he's free. The best thing to do now is to invite a bidding war. That's the only way we're going to get a little extra for him.

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It doesn't matter if we were never dealing with £30m offers, whatever we could've got - £15m+ sounded reasonable. I don't think any club would've known any more than we do. The bottom line is that Van Persie has made it clear that he is not willing to sign a new contract. That matters. That has knocked a few million off the asking price. If he hadn't said that and kept his mouth quiet, there is a chance we could say he is still considering a new contract so any transfer bid would have to be reasonable even if his preference would be to move.

Also the reason he has given - even if he felt that way, and even if it's true - is a huge slap on the face of the club and doesn't help us attract any new players either. What we think is common knowledge is not. Arsenal and Arsene Wenger do indeed have a huge reputation and the current captain of the club saying we don't have the right ambition is a problem.

Straight swap for Aguero

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Originally Posted by Marc Overmars

A part of me does hope he ends up at City. He certainly wouldn't be treated the same as he is here and he'd probably be in and out of the side because Mancini needs to massage all the egos there to keep them happy. He'd regret that move in an instant. Plus we'd probably get a bit more from them in terms of the price.

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I know very little about the financial regulations but it seems like Van Persie is the type of player the likes of City need to steer clear of to meet them. Nearing his thirties on a large long-term contract. But maybe that is just wishful thinking. Only really going by Chelsea's sudden influx of young players (that cost a fortune, granted). It'd very much be a too many cooks situation for City...but Mankini wants him.

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Originally Posted by Ice Berg Kamping

What I meant was that RVP's been more transparent earlier.

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But this is crunch time and he has no real choice but to. He has a year left on his contract and something has to be said this summer. We slapped a gag order on him during the Euros, tried to peddle some nonsense about him wanting more money and this is the response as soon as the tournament is over. He can't say he's happy hear and committed with a year left on his contract but during the season, while he was playing and when asked about his contract he played the PR game. He said he'd always be a Gunner, loved the club and loved London. But you can't keep saying that if you only have a year left on your contract. That's the difference between the two cases. Time. It's not a case of whose handled the situation with more class or been more transparent. Because Robin's only has a year left, he's had to come clean. Plus, we couldn't afford to be transparent with Cesc's case considering the length of his contract and due to the fact that Barca were playing games with us on the transfer fee.