I have the same question.Quote:
Originally Posted by Letters
What are his qualifications that determine that fact?
He must have a pretty comprehensive list of honours.
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I have the same question.Quote:
Originally Posted by Letters
What are his qualifications that determine that fact?
He must have a pretty comprehensive list of honours.
:gp: Spot onQuote:
Originally Posted by Marc Overmars
That and as I’ve repeatedly stated, it’s reductive and misses the point
The point I feel is not that Arteta has missed out on the title because he’s tactically inadequate, it’s because he is risk adverse, egomaniacal and needs to control things.
Liverpool I can only think every day that their fans must pinch themselves in disbelief that not only have City collapsed but that we stalled on the grid. I cannot imagine any of the fan base felt confident when the greatest coach that club has had since Bob Paisley decided to call it quits, but then again we know Leicester City fans felt in 2015 that it was more likely that they’d be battling relegation than fighting for the title…strange things can happen.
I know I’ve dismissed the role of coach but I think there’s just no way I’d have been as dismissive of Liverpool if Klopp was there even with the squad that Salah, Jota and Van Dijk aside isn’t that impressive.
But still though, even with the HUGE drag factor of Arteta I did expect when the Rodri news dropped on 23rd September that as long as Arteta didn’t try to interfere we’d be champions in May. I think that sense of certainty dissipated a week or so later when I saw the team we put out against Southampton. It was clear to me that Arteta would interfere with almost capricious stupidity.
I was hoping I was wrong, but the Liverpool game, the Newcastle game (the away game not the league cup game I don’t care about nothing trophies) the Fulham game, the Everton game, The Brighton game. That’s 11 points that have been flushed down the shitter because of his hubris, his stubbornness and his incompetence.
I want him gone because to fail so spectacularly when we might never have a better chance to win the league again for a long time has to have consequences. Obviously he didn’t do it out of malice, but if you make a major mistake at work that costs the company millions it’s only fair that your job should be forfeit
So for me it’s less about who will take us forward and more about Justice.
Thanks mate, but I preferred the way it was before.Quote:
Originally Posted by KSE Comedy Club
Also, I think naming names does help speedup ending our relationship with Arteta. Its the same reason I (and everyone else) knows Anceloti is leaving Madrid this summer despite having a contract till 2026, it because Alonso's name keeps coming up over and over again.
Also, look at it like a proper relationship, its always easier for you to breakup and move on when you are certain of who is waiting in the wings. Also if your partner had self-respect and started hearing rumours, they'd drop you like a bad habit.....or mend their ways if they are the really desperate type.
Anyway, the philanderer wins in both situations :)
Probably why Madrid has been so successful.
If Kompany can get the Bayern Munich job despite failing to understand that you can’t play the same kind of expansive football in the premier league that he did in the championship with the players available to him. It suggests to me that there’s no objective determination on what makes a good coach anyhow.Quote:
Originally Posted by KSE Comedy Club
If the world was fair and reasonable, Arteta would be got rid of now and have as much chance of getting another managerial job as Nick Leeson had of getting another job in banking.
I don’t think it’s actually appreciated that this season has been an almost Barings Bank level fuck up
Hang on.Quote:
Originally Posted by HCZ_Reborn
So...we got 89 points last season, our second best PL total ever and only one fewer than The Invincibles.
And that was WITH Arteta being a "HUGE" drag factor?
Holy shit! We'd have won every game without him!
Behave yourself.
I don’t know about winning every game but we might even have won the title if he didn’t spend the first few games of that season dicking around with experimental lineups and tactics.Quote:
Originally Posted by Letters
When Arteta keeps things simple, doesn’t as I say try to interfere things can go well. Last season was largely a case in the second half not only of using the set pieces as a tactic but not trying to complicate things with galaxy brained tactics.
Of course it didn’t help when in April a journalist asked him whether he no longer considered Havertz a midfielder and his ego couldn’t handle it. I think that this ended up with Havertz back at number 8 again and us drawing with Bayern and losing to Villa.
That’s why he’s a Drag factor my dear sir.
We started last season fine in terms of results. It was probably Christmas where we buggered things up with those back to back defeats. But the response was fantastic and I can't really fault their efforts overall. If you think we got 89 points despite Arteta and with someone better we'd have got significantly more and won the title then you're crackers, frankly.Quote:
Originally Posted by HCZ_Reborn
We didn’t start last season fine at all, we ended up drawing home games to Fulham and Spurs because of Arteta’s tinkering. The football was also abject.Quote:
Originally Posted by Letters
No not significantly more we only finished two points behind, but when you consider in years past that Liverpool broke 90 points twice and didn’t win the title, this we couldn’t have done any more bollocks rings hollow.
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Originally Posted by Letters