Goodbye Sanga?

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Originally Posted by Alpha

Maybe , Sagna should have waited the end of his Arsenal career to voice his concern . Look at TV5 . He was so close to RVP . I know that RVP move to Man United shocked him but he remains professional and don't say any bullshit in public .
Sagna is a good player . One of whom the team should rely on . He is one of the seniors . He should have behaved accordingly . When asked by the media , he should have been diplomatic and say something like : " I don't really know anything about it . Please go and ask the Board or the manager . I'm just a player and I'm more concerned about my performance on the pitch than how the team is being run . Of course , it is painful to lose such good players who were also good friends . But that is part of life . Good luck to them and Arsenal will move on " .

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FFS.

I bet you practice acceptance speeches in the shower.

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Think of this as insight into what's going on behind the scenes. When players leave, many fans jump to the wrong conclusion and always assume it's the player being greedy for more money. With this interview, you can at least see that some players are just as shocked and frustrated by our policies. It's all well and good saying Sagna should keep quiet but I think it's time the fans knew what's really going on. We know we're only going to get spin and lies from PHW, Wenger and Gazidis.

I've always suspected our transfer dealing dents the morale of the team. We had a terrible start last year, we also had that horrible season where all the players were fighting after we sold Hleb and Flamini, I also suspect morale takes a hit every January when we don't sign players when we're in desperate need of back up. It's no coincidence that our longest serving players aren't committee because they have seen it all. RVP, Theo, Song and now Sagna.

Besides getting an insight into what some of the players are thinking, we have also heard, not for the first time, how slow we are to open contract talks. They need to sort that out as well.

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Originally Posted by Syn

FFS.

I bet you practice acceptance speeches in the shower.

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Originally Posted by Terry Tuffnutz

From today:

Ideally, those doubts wouldn't be made as public but I don't imagine that Sagna sat down and said 'Today I will talk to a journalist about my concerns over Arsenal's transfer policy'. I suspect he's answering questions put to him in a pre-arranged interview and I guess he's just being honest and making public his worries about the way players are sold and seemingly not replaced. But this is the same Sagna who was lauding Diaby after his performance against Liverpool so he's hardly sitting at home self-harming himself in the face because of it all.

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That completely contradicts his position on RVP's comments. When RVP made that statement, Arseblog criticised him while now he says what Sagna is saying is understandable (which is nevertheless true).

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Originally Posted by Joker

That completely contradicts his position on RVP's comments. When RVP made that statement, Arseblog criticised him while now he says what Sagna is saying is understandable (which is nevertheless true).

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RVP was Our Captain and while he was right to air his personal thoughts he could have done it in a better way which is why he got a lot of stick.

Where as Sagna like people are saying is only saying how he is feeling like i guess most in the dressing room though i think its the wrong time to say it.

Guess it depends on the person being spouting off, had Denilson or Chamack said this, bet it owuld be a non story tbh.

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Originally Posted by Alpha

Sagna should shut up and work to return to the team . He is not helping his teammates with his useless interview . We will never know the truth about players who are leaving or being sold . Van persie wanted out and you could tell through his statement . Song was not doing his defensive duties properly . He had a good season creating chances for Van Persie but his main task of protecting the back five was always let to be desired .

The truth is we lost two players . Was it to balance the books as some claim ? Or because the club lack ambition according to RVP ? OR simply because one (RVP) refuse to sign the contract and the other ( Song ) was disruptive and was pushed to the exit door ? Media and fans will only speculate but the truth remains a mystery .
All that doesn't count anymore and we should move on . Song and RVP don't care about Arsenal anymore , why should they ? The question we should ask whether the team has moved forward or not since their departure . Based on the three games played so far there seem to be some improvement . Their sale can turn out to be a blessing in disguise .

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I agree with this...Sagna's injured, so bottom line it...doesnt matter what he thinks right now!! I wanna see players working for the shirt and wearing it with pride, not complaining. Sagna was always gonna moan sooner or later, have we forgot that he's the guy always blaming someone else on the field when things fuck up? The famed "it wasnt my fault" shrug of the shoulders.. LOL. He's not a leader, those who were saying he could be captain need to have a word with themselves LOL.

Then theres this talk about the senior players feeling the same as he does....Really?? The senior players that would feel the same are gone or going. Im surprised some of you havent grasped that Wenger is changing the squad dynamics, the losers are going, those with question marks about their commitment are going....fuck all the "the clubs made a profit again..."talk aswell, in my eyes we will hopefully have a dressing room of players willing to fight for each other and the club, not wish they were Clichy, Nasri or some other dude at a different club. We have extended the contracts of players that we want i.e Vermaelen, Kos and with Gibbs, Jenkinson (who is showing masses of improvement) Per and Santos I dont hear much dissension in the defence, so Sagna is the odd one out in my eyes.

Sagna is moaning that he hasnt had an approach by the club to extend his contract...maybe the club see a future with him out because he does shit like complain about wanting to be Nasri and Clichy to the fucking press instead of holding his own counsel, getting fit and fighting for the team. Imagine having a desk job where all you do is type and you break your hands and your employer still pays you full pay (not SSP) while you recover?? Sagna needs to get his priorities in order.

See for me....publicly I support the club, if im not happy with how the club is run then that can be discussed with gooners but they also in the end...support the club, we can keep it in house, but for example im not having some manc or spud dissing my club...it's not happening...and I will publically back the model of how the club is run if I can see strides being made to change things. Ive been waiting for Bould and Banfield, Bould in particular to be pushed into the first team coaching staff, that he is assistant manager is a massive bonus. This will change things, do you think Bouldy will accept players, senior ones at that, not setting the right example to the younger players coming in?? Of course not...Sagna is a loser if he's not up for the challenge plain and simple...hand in a transfer request and shut your mouth. Bould is the biggest signing of our Summer guys, believe that.

Im not saying there is anything wrong with being envious of the clubs that can throw big money at good players, hence building super squads, which lead to the higher possibility of trophies, but this "player support" of those publicly destabilising the dressing room from some of you on here is borderline "suspect" and is kinda weak. Right now I think we haver a group of players that have belief, but we also have a group of players with a lot of quality IMO. If you go through our current squad, barring Sagna and Arshavin I dont see anyone still at the club that would not be positive about their arsenal career, thats a new foundation in my eyes and I'm willing to see how it goes...

Fuck Sagna, Fuck RvP, Fuck Song, if Walcott dont wanna stay fuck him aswell. These players havent/didnt win us shit, one of them is playing for MAN U FOR CRYING OUT LOUD.

The season has begun and it's time to start getting behind the players that want to play for the club and see us do well. We're building a new foundation, this may take some time and i have a feeling some "fans" wont have the time to wait, but then you aren't the "fans" the club need in times such as these...if you cant see when The Arsenal need to be backed when dicks like Sagna start bringing their insecurities to the forefront while attempting to find a fresh can of fuel so he can start a new fire...I dont know what to tell you except that......Sagna is a prick.

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Originally Posted by Newguy

I agree with this...Sagna's injured, so bottom line it...doesnt matter what he thinks right now!! I wanna see players working for the shirt and wearing it with pride, not complaining. Sagna was always gonna moan sooner or later, have we forgot that he's the guy always blaming someone else on the field when things fuck up? The famed "it wasnt my fault" shrug of the shoulders.. LOL. He's not a leader, those who were saying he could be captain need to have a word with themselves LOL.

Then theres this talk about the senior players feeling the same as he does....Really?? The senior players that would feel the same are gone or going. Im surprised some of you havent grasped that Wenger is changing the squad dynamics, the losers are going, those with question marks about their commitment are going....fuck all the "the clubs made a profit again..."talk aswell, in my eyes we will hopefully have a dressing room of players willing to fight for each other and the club, not wish they were Clichy, Nasri or some other dude at a different club. We have extended the contracts of players that we want i.e Vermaelen, Kos and with Gibbs, Jenkinson (who is showing masses of improvement) Per and Santos I dont hear much dissension in the defence, so Sagna is the odd one out in my eyes.

Sagna is moaning that he hasnt had an approach by the club to extend his contract...maybe the club see a future with him out because he does shit like complain about wanting to be Nasri and Clichy to the fucking press instead of holding his own counsel, getting fit and fighting for the team. Imagine having a desk job where all you do is type and you break your hands and your employer still pays you full pay (not SSP) while you recover?? Sagna needs to get his priorities in order.

See for me....publicly I support the club, if im not happy with how the club is run then that can be discussed with gooners but they also in the end...support the club, we can keep it in house, but for example im not having some manc or spud dissing my club...it's not happening...and I will publically back the model of how the club is run if I can see strides being made to change things. Ive been waiting for Bould and Banfield, Bould in particular to be pushed into the first team coaching staff, that he is assistant manager is a massive bonus. This will change things, do you think Bouldy will accept players, senior ones at that, not setting the right example to the younger players coming in?? Of course not...Sagna is a loser if he's not up for the challenge plain and simple...hand in a transfer request and shut your mouth. Bould is the biggest signing of our Summer guys, believe that.

Im not saying there is anything wrong with being envious of the clubs that can throw big money at good players, hence building super squads, which lead to the higher possibility of trophies, but this "player support" of those publicly destabilising the dressing room from some of you on here is borderline "suspect" and is kinda weak. Right now I think we haver a group of players that have belief, but we also have a group of players with a lot of quality IMO. If you go through our current squad, barring Sagna and Arshavin I dont see anyone still at the club that would not be positive about their arsenal career, thats a new foundation in my eyes and I'm willing to see how it goes...

Fuck Sagna, Fuck RvP, Fuck Song, if Walcott dont wanna stay fuck him aswell. These players havent/didnt win us shit, one of them is playing for MAN U FOR CRYING OUT LOUD.

The season has begun and it's time to start getting behind the players that want to play for the club and see us do well. We're building a new foundation, this may take some time and i have a feeling some "fans" wont have the time to wait, but then you aren't the "fans" the club need in times such as these...if you cant see when The Arsenal need to be backed when dicks like Sagna start bringing their insecurities to the forefront while attempting to find a fresh can of fuel so he can start a new fire...I dont know what to tell you except that......Sagna is a prick.

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So what your saying is Sagna needs to Stfu

Sagan :bow:

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