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Can you please tell me how £50k - £85k would stop them from going to City or Chelsea when those clubs could offer well over £100k? If City decided they wanted Ramsey next year and offered him £150k in wages, we're pow less to stop it and just have to hope he knows it's a wrong career move.Quote:
Originally Posted by Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie
Even City and Chelsea can't show disregard to FPP to the point where they can pay every player 150k, and Ramsey would only be a squad player at those clubs at best.Quote:
Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory
You just said we had to stretch our finances to compete with other clubs.Quote:
Originally Posted by Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie
Yes?...and when a club like man city has about a dozen players on 150k plus a year, there are only so many dodgy deals they can do to keep inside the watered down boundaries of FPP. So we stretch our finances to the limit, by offering our players 100k a week to prevent them going to Chelsea or City for the same kind of money.Quote:
Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory
Wild assumptions there. Did you read what Wenger had to say about our wage structure? It sounds to me like your making excuses for silly structure that's stretching our finances for no reason. Did the wage structure stop us from losing Flamini to Milan? Or losing RVP when the PHW said we couldn't compete with the wages of City? Did it prevent Nasri from leaving for City? Or Ade?
You're reaching. The fact that we've stretched our wages for players like Djourou, Denilson, Bendy, Diaby...prevents us from offering better deals to top performing players that have caught the eye of the elite clubs with money to burn. Nobody cares about our youngsters. When was the last time you heard about a group of top clubs clamouring to poach one of our young academy players? It doesn't happen. It never happens! It's the young players like Hazard, Gotze and Neymar that get swallowed up by the big clubs. None of them care what we've got going on in our academy. They're not producing the type of performances to warrant an approach from those clubs and we certainly shouldn't be paying them a bundle as if they're about to swoop in at any minute. We have overvalued players and stuck Harrod price tags on Primark products. A huge chunk of our academy players end up playing in the Championship or some other lesser team abroad. There is no need to pay the young players so much.
I agree about the dross being overpaid obscene wages and it hasn't helped. But since Van Persie departed you can see although we prevaricated we agreed to signing up Walcott on 100k a week, and now Ramsey has joined him and yes that is stretching us to the limit to stop them going to city and Chelsea. With Flamini it was clear we weren't prepared to pay him what he wanted in 2008, and Nasri and Van Persie are on a higher quality bracket that anyone we've got at the club now (with perhaps the exception of Ozil) so we were always bound to lose players like that when clubs will offer them up to 200k a week.
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Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory
I really dont understand HCZs position because he is all over the place. Is it that this club with the 3rd highest turnover in the EPL. soon to be the 2nd when the new sponsorships kick in cannot afford to pay its best players commensurately, Or that we cannot afford to pay high enough transfer fees to get the players we need, Or that there really is nothing we can do on the finance side so we should just accept 4th...or maybe 5th or then again 6th seeeing as Everton, Spuds and Pool are better run clubs than we.
Wait :lol:
You think Spurs are a better run club than us?
Sarcasm deficiency alert:Quote:
Originally Posted by Letters
It's not that obvious in written text :shrug: