Jamie Vardy - BBC Sport - Vardy set to reject Arsenal

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Originally Posted by selassie

He's got a big decision to make, I'm not even sure if we have offered him first team football, well through the middle. I honestly wouldn't be that surprised if Wenger stuck him on the wing assuming he does join.

The more time I have had to think about this deal the more uneasy I am with it. Yeah he's a decent enough player, yeah he scored a bucket load last season, some of them very good goals...I'm just not sure he's right for us and it doesn't address the fact we need a solid long term option up top.

I think we'll get 2 half decent seasons out of him max, it's a helluva investment for someone like that.

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Not particularly a fan of this potential signing but I read something today that made sense. We took one of Leicester's analysts last season and he is surely able to provide real insight into Vardy's physical capabilities, on top of the endless amount of info the scouts at Arsenal already have. So perhaps the feeling is he may well be able to keep it up for 3/4 seasons.

Vardy is a good buy for any team (at least for the next 2 years). I just do not think he is the right buy for a team like Arsenal. Unless Wenger is changing Arsenal's style of play dramatically, I just cannot see how Vardy will more effective than Giroud.

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Originally Posted by Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie

Our goal scoring and defended stats are not especially different to that of Leicesters or Tottenhams

Man City the top scorers got five more goals than us in a season where we registered our lowest goal tally for seven years

Away from home we scored more goals than anyone else but we couldn't hold onto leads or we were having to come from behind, and at home a better striker could have got us points at home to Liverpool, Southampton, Swansea and Crystal Palace.

Could have even got us back into the game against West Ham and Chelsea

Away from home, we had two goalless draws from
Seven so the problem came with an inability to close out the game.

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Saw this earlier in the season too (mid April)

http://www.standard.co.uk/sport/foot...-a3227581.html

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Originally Posted by Kano

Not particularly a fan of this potential signing but I read something today that made sense. We took one of Leicester's analysts last season and he is surely able to provide real insight into Vardy's physical capabilities, on top of the endless amount of info the scouts at Arsenal already have. So perhaps the feeling is he may well be able to keep it up for 3/4 seasons.

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He doesn't have the same miles on the clock that a normal 29 year old striker would so I reckon there's plenty left in the engine. He seems like one of those wiry and naturally fit kind of people anyway...this is all until our medical team get their hands on him of course.

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Originally Posted by Kano

Saw this earlier in the season too (mid April)

http://www.standard.co.uk/sport/foot...-a3227581.html

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I don't think we especially had to play well to get more points in the fixtures you've cited

Southampton was probably one of the most shambolic performances in recent years and does exemplify your point

But let's be fair, a decent striker we could have finished off Swansea, Palace, Southampton and probably got more against West Ham and Chelsea if we had been able to find the net, in those five fixtures you cited we scored two goals.

The performances were too often sub par, but even despite that I still think a more prolific goal scorer could have bagged us 12-15 more points.

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Originally Posted by Kano

Saw this earlier in the season too (mid April)

http://www.standard.co.uk/sport/foot...-a3227581.html

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When you're leading games by the odd goal it doesn't really matter how good or bad you are at the back, it only takes a second for a moment of genius, bad luck or error to occur and everything is undone. There were too many games last season I felt we were plodding along and not killing games off when the opportunities were there.

Goals take the game away from an opponent, that's why I think the lack of a consistent striker is the biggest issue for a team like us where attack is the best form of defence.

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Originally Posted by Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie

I don't think we especially had to play well to get more points in the fixtures you've cited

Southampton was probably one of the most shambolic performances in recent years and does exemplify your point

But let's be fair, a decent striker we could have finished off Swansea, Palace, Southampton and probably got more against West Ham and Chelsea if we had been able to find the net, in those five fixtures you cited we scored two goals.

The performances were too often sub par, but even despite that I still think a more prolific goal scorer could have bagged us 12-15 more points.

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The reason I picked those three out was because the most noticeable problem on the day was how lacklustre we appeared in our approach. A real lack of urgency despite what winning them would have meant at the time. A better striker would have helped but under Wenger it just wouldn't be enough. The squad we had should've been enough given the level of competition last season but we didn't even challenge in the end.

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Originally Posted by Kano

Not particularly a fan of this potential signing but I read something today that made sense. We took one of Leicester's analysts last season and he is surely able to provide real insight into Vardy's physical capabilities, on top of the endless amount of info the scouts at Arsenal already have. So perhaps the feeling is he may well be able to keep it up for 3/4 seasons.

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Interesting, don't get me wrong I'm not against us signing him and if he provides 2, 3 or even 4 seasons for us like he has just done for Leicester then it's money very well spent.

About the potential, I meant that it would be preferable to sign someone in their early to mid 20's who could deliver straight away and for many years after that but that's kind of unrealistic because there doesn't appear to be anybody out there who is obtainable that fits the profile.

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Originally Posted by Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie

I don't think we especially had to play well to get more points in the fixtures you've cited

Southampton was probably one of the most shambolic performances in recent years and does exemplify your point

But let's be fair, a decent striker we could have finished off Swansea, Palace, Southampton and probably got more against West Ham and Chelsea if we had been able to find the net, in those five fixtures you cited we scored two goals.

The performances were too often sub par, but even despite that I still think a more prolific goal scorer could have bagged us 12-15 more points.

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Funny you mention one player getting us 12-15 points. Wasn't Cech supposed toto be worth that much in points to the team? But somehow we end up with less points by the end of the season. We'll always be unlucky in some area. It's a stream of failure with Wenger. Can't be contained to one area because we take to long to build. Come next season we'll probably have to come to grips with an aging defence and maybe an uninspired Ozil.

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Originally Posted by Kano

Liverpool had Suarez and Sturridge scoring for fun, over a hundred goals and still didn't win it. There's more to it than that.

And given all the frustration around the manager and his set-up, it feels like a nonsense to sweep all of that away in the name of one type of player not being in the team.

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To be fair Liverpool came only one Gerrard slip away from winning that outright and were only just pipped by a team who had themselves also managed to score a shedload of goals that season (Aguero and Negredo went mental that year iirc).

Someone will lookup it up but it's no coincidence that the team that scores the most goals in a season is usually the team that wins the league. Sure it's no guarantee of success but it'll put you in pole position.