Match Reaction Vs Newcastle away

also i think the biggest problem now is no gervinho for liverpool and man utd, and song will be getting a ban too.

no nascunt, cesc, gervinho, song. we are truly f*cked.

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Originally Posted by AKBapologist

Yep, but still took one of only 2 of Arsenals shots on goal.

The guy clearly wasn't fit/on form, but he was still more incisive/direct than anything else we had yesterday.

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hence why he had a shocker.

which is what i originally said.

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Originally Posted by She Wore A Yellow Ribbon

sorry but you cant make any real judgement just from watching highlights, i thought you were making an argument having watched the whole game. theo had a shocker, lost the ball numerous times, tried taking the defender on and f*cking up. typical theo really.

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You miss the point. It makes no sense to bring on a player thy has never played a Prem game or played for Arsenal to make his debut in a tough game when you have someone like Theo is on the bench who has changed games when coming of the bench and has the experience. That is my argument. I'm not saying Theo played a blinder because I saw the first hour of the match.

But you would do well to follow your own advice. I've never Oxo play and you're going of your mates advice and haven't really seen him play either. Even if you have, it doesn't matter because he was a division one player, a league below the Championship league. I don't think it makes any sense expecting him to make an impact and to change the game so early. He's probably only had time to have one training session with us.

I'm just saying we should take it easy and kill all the hype and high expectations. Give him some time before we expect too much like most people did with Theo.

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Originally Posted by Ach

Only real problem Theo has is staying fit for a full season.

If he does that then the weak part of his game will get stronger naturally. Lets just say id rather have him than his rivals for an England place in Young whos shit, Lennon whos even shitter, SWP is dead and Johnsons career is over with Citys influx of players.

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I agree with most of this. A full season from Theo would be very welcome. And he is better than all of the aforementioned players, except Johnson who doesn't get a game, and MAYBE Young who looks like he may make a step up at Utd?

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Originally Posted by AKBapologist

Yep, but still took one of only 2 of Arsenals shots on goal.

The guy clearly wasn't fit/on form, but he was still more incisive/direct than anything else we had yesterday.

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And that's what I saw and was commenting on. It was snooze feet of a game where we hardly tested the keeper.

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Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory

You miss the point. It makes no sense to bring on a player thy has never played a Prem game or played for Arsenal to make his debut in a tough game when you have someone like Theo is on the bench who has changed games when coming of the bench and has the experience. That is my argument. I'm not saying Theo played a blinder because I saw the first hour of the match.

But you would do well to follow your own advice. I've never Oxo play and you're going of your mates advice and haven't really seen him play either. Even if you have, it doesn't matter because he was a division one player, a league below the Championship league. I don't think it makes any sense expecting him to make an impact and to change the game so early. He's probably only had time to have one training session with us.

I'm just saying we should take it easy and kill all the hype and high expectations. Give him some time before we expect too much like most people did with Theo.

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yeah i know what you mean. i guess my point was more made in hindsight i.e. theo was shit, wish wenger bought on oxo kinda thing.

i still stand my ground on the jack argument though, with him we would have won.

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Originally Posted by Marc Overmars

Pretty much. He should be played exclusively through the centre now. He's had his education on the right and now we need to start utilising a potential weapon we have. We need an option to play off the shoulder, keep defenders on their toes. There's no doubt pace is the most feared attribute in the game, time to make the most of it. Theo at times can be a passenger because the passing game is not his style. If you look at the goals he scores for us, they're all very similar in that they involve him leaving defenders for dead.

Theo even said he'd like to play there, so why not give him a shot there? There's nothing to lose.

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looks like we're sticking with 433 so hard to see how theo fits into that system in the middle

We can go back and fourth on that one. Jack was playing when we couldn't buy a win last season, has played in the pre seasons....I'm not sure we would have won with him on the pitch and think it's wrong for the fans to put that sort of pressure on his young shoulders. I hope he becomes that player but it shouldn't be attributed to him when he hasn't proven it.

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Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory

We can go back and fourth on that one. Jack was playing when we couldn't buy a win last season, has played in the pre seasons....I'm not sure we would have won with him on the pitch and think it's wrong for the fans to put that sort of pressure on his young shoulders. I hope he becomes that player but it shouldn't be attributed to him when he hasn't proven it.

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we beat man utd last season when jack was the focal point without cesc. and in preseason hes looked good. i think jacks the type of player that will relish the responsibility of being an important player and he'll play with more freedom now cescs gone. needs to add goals to his game but that'll come with age. he maturing at a fast pace and i can see him taking the role brilliantly.

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Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory

Good grief! The footballing brain nonsense. The kid was brought up to play as a striker. We see Arshavin make silly mistakes with his passing and looking lazy on the flanks but no one would say he lacks a brain. Put Arshavin behind a striker and we'll see a different player. Playing Theo on the flanks is like playing Defoe or Owen out wide. He's done well considering and I'd still say he's been our most dangerous and productive winger over the past few seasons.

Disagree if you want but time will tell.

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It's not nonsense, he can't think on his feet and his use of the ball/space isn't very good.

It's not really to do with positional play, more to do with awareness of what's around you and how you can use the ball and make the most of space.

Arshavin on the whole is clever on the ball, sure he has bad matches but you can see he thinks on the ball.

Some teams can't cope with pace, that is why Theo has so much success at the end of matches, when players are tired pace is even more frightening and he has an abundance of it.