you're not. Jack is the best and most important british player :coffee:Quote:
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you're not. Jack is the best and most important british player :coffee:Quote:
Originally Posted by Cripps
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Originally Posted by ollie the optimist
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ARSENE WENGER will have one last chance to keep Theo Walcott at Arsenal over the next two weeks.
The England star will sit down with the Gunners again during the next fortnight to try to thrash out a long-term deal.
SunSport can reveal there have been NO actual negotiations over the past two months despite reports suggesting talks were ongoing.
Walcott and his advisers have been holding off new negotiations, though Arsenal have invited them for a new round of talks.
A top club source said: “Talks will happen over the next couple of weeks, though the exact timing is not finalised. Nothing is expected before the FA Cup game at Swansea.”
Chelsea and Manchester City are favourites to land the England superstar — if he decides to leave.
Our source added: “One thing’s clear, Theo will not go anywhere in January.”
If that were to happen it would be against the player’s wishes and those of boss Wenger.
Walcott WANTS to stay.
Wenger heaped praise on Walcott following his hat-trick against Newcastle and repeatedly said he will NOT let the striker leave in January.
The England star wants £95,000 a week and Arsenal are not budging from their £75,000 offer.
It is believed Walcott would meet Arsenal halfway but they would have to make an increase in their original offer if the striker is to stay on.
Read more: http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage...#ixzz2GdVtpjbX
Yup. And Jack was happy to sign.Quote:
Originally Posted by ollie the optimist
Theo and his agent won't even discuss terms with the club. Tells you all you need to know.
theo is easily replaceable, he is a very good player and can finish well, but so can many others and so can be replaced. (provided we spend money)Quote:
Originally Posted by Grimandi's Perm
however Jack isnt replacebale at all. there is something special about him, you cant replace the passion, the desire he has for Arsenal. you cant replace that, he has grown up with Arsenal and that makes him more special. his footballing skills are unbelieable, hes only 21 and is only going to get better. its very easy to forget he is only 21, his performances make him seem like he is a 25/26 year old at the top of their game but it is his love for us, his never say die attiude, his willingness to do anything to help us win, that makes him irreplaceable. proof of this, is his signing a new deal very quickly because he wanted to stay. that you cant replace, someone who plays well but fucks around with a new offer, can be replaced
Apparently he's been telling people to call him Theorry :rolleyes:
i do not see the sense in happily waving goodbye to a player who is essential to the team we have at the moment, as he also was last season. isn't that how we have sunken into this mess, by letting our most productive players leave and having to find replacements that will settle in straight away and be cheap enough for wenger's tight wallet? think about those that have come and gone from wide positions over the years and how they have performed in comparison. right now i couldn't care less what his personal thoughts are for his own career, only for the fact that without him we'd be in even more shite than we are. he's doing his job, long may that continue and the only way we will build anything worthwhile in the prem again is if we build around the key components of our team. theo is that now and we need him.Quote:
Originally Posted by ollie the optimist
There's this paranoia over "player power" which means some fans are happy to see players leave as long as it shows that the club are "in charge" and players can't dictate terms.
Had a shocker, in a game where no one in the team came close to scoring and yet he walks away with an assist.
Easily replaceable my arse. If we're unable to keep him, we're certainly unable to afford a replacement who produces as much from wide or central positions right now, especially english, or under 25.
The same people saying that shit are probably the same ones who said the likes of Ashley Young, Lennon or Bendtner are better players.
I agree, I don't understand how people can be so flippant when saying he's replacable.
He's joint top in terms of assists, and has 14 goals this season. Given Wenger's recent record in terms of signings, I really doubt he's easily replaceable. There's more chance that Walcott would be replaced by Gervinho mark II rather than a "top quality" player.
This. :gp:Quote:
Originally Posted by Joker
:blah: he so gone
Jack is good but he is not irreplaceable! His love for the club is great but he is just a big fish in a terribly small pond. I think we will know how good he is in the next couple of years, if he can play at the same level and without injuries.Quote:
Originally Posted by ollie the optimist
Even Jack will be gone as soon as the board feel they can cash in
Theo would be replaceable at any other top club apart from Arsenal. We DONT and WONT spend money on "Proper" replacements when our best players leave. We have been downgrading the quality of our team since the invincible days, that's a fact. Even when we built fairly decent teams, 07/08 and a few seasons ago, we tear them apart.Quote:
Originally Posted by ollie the optimist
Arsene's idea of a replacement is either grooming an internal "project" player or "risk buying" abroad...most likely Ligue One.
I actually think to a degree our top 4 status this season hinges on Theo, who else is going to produce similar numbers in this team if he's not playing?
Just remember who said thatQuote:
Originally Posted by Marc Overmars
Meeting going on today with Feo's reps. Media seem to think he's likely to sign now.
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Originally Posted by Marc Overmars
word is he's signed 90k a week contract.
wenger :bow:
Signed for who?
If this is true and knowing our record, it probably isnt then hes gone in summer 2014
i see his point
rodwell 100k a week
sturridge 80k a week
what the fuck have they done?
theo's been our most consistent performer for the past couple of years. integral to the side. and we want to offer him a paltry 75k a week.
performances warrant reward. theo warrants 100k a week for his performances over the past 15 months. he could easily get it and probably more elsewhere.
Theo. :bow:
Always rated him.
http://metro.co.uk/2013/01/02/theo-w...talks-3335287/
From the guy who does the Young Guns blog, normally a reliable source of info.
Phew. Hopefully we can make a decent profit on him now.
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Originally Posted by Fist of Lehmann
If we do end up selling him we'll be able to hold out for a higher price as time will be on our side now.
He'll go shit again, and then the moaners will start crying that we paid him too much :rolleyes:
We can't predict how Theo's going to play in 2013, if he goes shit then I wouldn't blame the club for offering him a huge contract. Based on his productivity over the last 2 years, and given the wages that other players earn, £90K/week is entirely justified.
He was a bit shit v Southampton and we offer him 90k a week?
Wenger and the board :doh:
Paying Theo 90K is complete madness, but considering how much way pay the likes of Arteta, Ramsey and a few other counter-productive players, it then becomes justifiable.
The truth of the matter is that Theo has a strong hand, he can refuse to sign and wait until the summer and join a top side with a large signing on fee and over 100K a week in wages, thus the Arsenal greedy board would get nada, on the other hand Theo realises we have a shit squad and front players so feels he is our Marquee player and deserves to be the highest paid player on the books. For me I would love him to walk in the summer on a free to teach ******* and the board a harsh lesson in economics. All in all I would prefer him to stay but I would'nt blame him if he joined Chelsea or Man City on a lucrative longterm deal and the chance of winning medals whilist he is in his prime, he's way too good for our squad, we are a Giroud and Chamakh team front line up, this means we have two shit forwards to compliment 9 shit outfielder players and yest that inludes Wilshire.
Out of all the top players we have lost in the last few years, he's the one I would be least bothered about.
He's done well this season for sure and has been our most productive player up front so credit where credits due, I just think we've lost some far better players in the past which I wished we'd kept hold off.
How on earth is it madness? Have you not seen his stats over the past few years? A comparable player on the market would cost 20million and 90k per week in wages minimum. We either sign him or promote Miyaichi...I know what I'd prefer.Quote:
Originally Posted by JoshGooner
Thanks for making my point. Ridiculous the kind of wages these mediocre players are being paid.Quote:
Originally Posted by selassie
I bet Sturridge is earning the same if not more at Liverpool, and he's proper shit.
Take it with a pinch of salt, but I read he is on about £60k.Quote:
Originally Posted by Marc Overmars
Well right now Theo isn't a mediocre player, say what you like about him but his stats are backing up his wage demands, the boy is and has been producing for the past 2 seasons. You go and find a wide forward on the continent that regularly hits double figures in goals and assists each season. You wanna know how much they trade for?Quote:
Originally Posted by JoshGooner
And the fact he isnt even a wide man and still produces, he deserves his wages
Go easy, as you're seriously bordering on overrating him here. Theo is still no world class player, awashed with talent and technical ability. Yes, he does use his attributes (pace and a moderately good shot/finish) to his advantage at times, but he's still pretty much an inconsistent git who at times looks like he doesn't have a brain. I reckon that it won't be very long before we start tearing out our hair again when he goes completely batshit on the pitch.Quote:
Originally Posted by selassie
With that said, he's still pretty much our most important player post RvC. But then again we've become undeniably small time. We're not a club on a mission to compete with the best clubs in the world, so Theo, along with the heavy contingent of dross, are pretty much at home here.
I'm worried that if he signs I'll be watching his lazy arse jogging back from another run into the defender, whilst our midfield and defence are over run by quality teams such as swansea, cardiff (next year), not sure if that is because rest of squad is shit or seen him disapear too many times where he thinks he's Henry :(