Random Arsenal Shit (When it's not worth starting a thread)

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Originally Posted by HCZ_Reborn

ultimately even if we beat Liverpool in the final it’s nice but it’s ultimately worthless.

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Which, again, is where you're wrong, it will be a huge boost to the club and the players, it will annoy spuds fans (always a good thing), and it might even make the Kroenkes realise they could have more fun days out if they put a bit mroe cash in

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Originally Posted by Mac76

Which, again, is where you're wrong, it will be a huge boost to the club and the players, it will annoy spuds fans (always a good thing), and it might even make the Kroenkes realise they could have more fun days out if they put a bit mroe cash in

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You really do need to learn the difference between your opinion and what is fact

It’s your contention that the league cup will be a huge boost to the club, how so I ask when the evidence of winning four fa cups in a six year period provides scant evidence of this huge boost you speak of.


If you want to win this trophy, because you think any trophy is better than none. Fine. But when you start broadcasting your opinions as gospel….tad silly

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Originally Posted by HCZ_Reborn

You really do need to learn the difference between your opinion and what is fact

It’s your contention that the league cup will be a huge boost to the club, how so I ask when the evidence of winning four fa cups in a six year period provides scant evidence of this huge boost you speak of.

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That was a different period where there wasn't the same ambition or team spirit which Arteta (despite his many faults) has created, anyone with any basic grasp of psychology woud understand it would enhance the self belief of what is stil a very young team.

Anyway, you just keep camping on here, incessantly countering everyone who happens to disagree with you, it's not like you've anything else to do...

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Originally Posted by Mac76

That was a different period where there wasn't the same ambition or team spirit which Arteta (despite his many faults) has created, anyone with any basic grasp of psychology woud understand it would enhance the self belief of what is stil a very young team.

Anyway, you just keep camping on here, incessantly countering everyone who happens to disagree with you, it's not like you've anything else to do...

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So the first bit, you haven’t defined how that’s not just your opinion. I could counter with why I disagree but if you’ve decided that your opinion is fact then there’s really not much point

Second bit I’m not sure what that’s relevant to. If it puts you at ease I could talk you through my day so you’re not left worrying that there’s not enough variance to my routine? :lol:

I read that the players are off to a warm weather training camp. This will hopefully do us good for the final part of the season.

Anthony (uglier than Dowie) Gordon saying “It is important to stay humble” things an e-Jit.

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Originally Posted by Marc Overmars

The smoking ban is easily one of if not the best change made in my adult lifetime. It was absolutely grim going out to enclosed spaces with so much smoke in the air. Plus it’s a habit that I’ve always hated anyway because my dad was a big smoker and he’d happily puff away at home with me around him. When I grill him about it now he blames a lack of an education on the matter but it seems like a flimsy excuse tbh.

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The smoking ban was a key step in getting rid of pubs. In a genuinely libertarian society se could easily have had pubs that allowed smoking and those that chose not to. Forcing people onto the street to smoke was for anti-social, not health purposes. As for the cost to the NHS, smokers and drinkers EASILY cover that, to such an extent the government hasn't gone the whole hog, if they are genuinely serious about health, and banned these drugs like other drugs. Look at the hypocrisy in the arguments of government and the anti-smoking lobby to see the true intentions.

Meanwhile people are poisoned by the water and food and harmed by their medicines, problems with as much if not more impact than recreational drugs. Happily people can take some steps to avoid the poisons in water and food, but don't forget a large segment of the population were on the verge of supporting mandatory "vaccination" with experimental, ineffective yet potentially very dangerous gene therapy treatment. This would have come from a notion it's even government's place to "ban" smoking - which it isn't. If we put up with such things then we aren't adults we are children.

It was only last year that smoking was (almost) fully banned in parliament, btw. It's still permitted in one of the clubs at Christmas, though I wonder why when it's against the "law"? Nevertheless, this still makes the smoking ban unlawful. When those who impose it don't adhere to it themselves, it's not a law, it's a decree. There are also clubs in London where you may still smoke a cigar (which I thoroughly approve of of course).

In France people are now starting to ignore these unconstitutional bans. Good for them. In time maybe the British will remember themselves too.

Next time the ref tries to book one of our players...

https://www.tiktok.com/@footyfrenzy2...68130984004896

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Originally Posted by Letters

Nah.
What was actually better was...you. You were young and healthy (probably) and optimistic (possibly).
Now you're old and ill (probably) and deeply cynical about everything (definitely). So you look back on what you see as happier times and declare everything better. I see this all the time on FB. Old people going on and on about how everything used to be so much better. It wasn't.

It wasn't worse either of course, the truth is some things were better, some were worse.

With regards to football. That generation of players wouldn't cut it in the modern game. They might have been "real men" but they were slow and fat and unfit and wouldn't get near enough to the modern players to hack them down. Some of them would make it of course, they'd be brought up in the modern regime. But a lot would be off down the pub and would never get near the top level. And you are cherry picking the best players from yesteryear, ignoring how many utter cloggers there were.

Overall I think football has got worse but not because of the quality of player. The main issues are the money, the blanket coverage, the disconnect between fans and club - the relationship now being very much business and customer. As HCZ highlights, money has always been a thing but Sky and the expansion of the CL have turned it up to 11.

As for society in general. The 80s were a deeply sexist, racist, homophobic time. It might have been great if you were white, male and straight. Less great for black people or the gays. A lot of that is much better now. Other things have got worse - immigration has enriched us in some ways but the level of it is too high and that causes issues. House prices are inaccessible for most people. The internet has brought a lot of benefits and convenience but obviously there are big issues there with kids having access to stuff they shouldn't and cyber bullying. Ironically the multitude ways we have of instantly connecting with people has made people lonelier.

Overall - some things better, some things worse. Hard to quantify it into a definitive about things being better or worse these days.

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Dud you are so brainwashed. Everything is your fault, or mine in this case, never theirs. Corruption and authoritarianism accelerates to become the norm? Well, observing that fact would be the ultimate act of cynicism, so shut up! Our wonderfully democratic government is about to cancel elections. That just shows you what a tried old git I have become.

As for the players, any players, you think they couldn't have played Pepball? Tip, tap, tip, tap? I bet they'd have loved it. Instead of getting paid £50 to tear up and down the line for 90 minutes, end to end, getting elbowed and kicked the whole time, they could stand around, back to goal, passing backwards. For £100k a week. And maybe they did drink down the pub, but they only had the £50 to spend. Now they can book limos and stuff them with whores and have their rap "music" blaring out the window. It's all so civilised.