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Yeah, that's the only way I can see it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Grebbo
He is playing for a pen - and, as you say, I could understand if it was given. It was a clumsy challenge, he was going down already but it's the defenders fault for making contact anyway.
Just had a couple more views focusing on the legs. Yeah, that's a pen, no doubt. Anyone would go down there.
What's worse: giving a pen when it's a dive or not giving a legitimate pen?
The problem Suarez has created is he dives so often now that refs can't give him pens even for legitimate fouls because it's Suarez so there's a high probability it's a dive.
If Suarez didn't dive then he'd actually get more pens.
I think the Norwich one is a pen but I really don't think it's clear cut. That super slow mo clip is very favourable for the pen, but if you watch it in normal time it's clear that Suarez deliberately stops so the defender makes contact - nothing to do with controlling the ball, he had no intention of controlling and shooting, his aim was to play for a pen IMO.
Not all contact by a defender on a striker in the box should result in a pen. There'd be a pen at every corner otherwise.
you obviously don't like liverpool. i understand that. they are dead funny right now.Quote:
Originally Posted by Grebbo
but you are way, way off on this one. that defender hits him his right thigh, then his elbow as well as Suarez's left leg - an absolute stonewall of a penalty. suarez was shaping to shoot when he is first hit - you have to slow down to shape up!
not many players doing better than 1 in 2 for a team in liverpools position, so he can't be faulted for that.
i'm not sure how you define world class but by my reckoning, this guy falls into that category.
EDIT: actually I'm still laughing watching that GIF given that people are finding a way to argue that it wasn't a penalty. amazing. couldn't be clearer.
If you're using stats to claim Suarez is world class then what the hell is RVP? He must be on a different planet. Messi and Ronaldo even more so.
What is world class anyway? For me it's if a player could get into the worlds best teams. I don't think Suarez could.
This is the pen at normal speed:
http://watchhighlightsonline.blogspo...im-suarez.html
It actually looks worse in normal speed.
Yeah, a worse dive.
lol
I'm using stats to add to the argument. his movement, runs and ball ability is absolutely fantastic - he would look and probably perform even better in a more successful team.Quote:
Originally Posted by Grebbo
oh and rvc is a ****. i thought you knew?
world class is intangible, i think it comes down to the individual.
One thing I think we can all agree on though is Stoke FC being a disgrace from top to bottom.
That stamp was disgraceful. Why was Pulis allowed to have his views aired on MOTD about Suarez but not be forced to answer questions about the stamp?
They're Stoke and they don't complain.