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Originally Posted by IBK

Another thing occurs to me also. Aretea's obsession with Swiss army knife players has hurt us. It has made us no less vulnerable to injuries/loss of form, and has resulted in a few players who are neither one thing nor another - when many of our competitors simply buy the best available player for a position, and play them there.

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You could argue it's made us more vulnerable with the no. of injuries this season.

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Originally Posted by KSE Comedy Club

Ironic that he also may be partly responsible for it going back that way in the not too distant future too.

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Fans in "being fickle" shock exclusive.

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Originally Posted by KSE Comedy Club

You could argue it's made us more vulnerable with the no. of injuries this season.

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How do you think this is? (Not disagreeing - just interested). I certainly think that Arteta's obsesion with all of his players - including forwards - defending has been a factor with Saka; Martinelli; Havertz and Odegard. The sheer amount of running they are expected to do has to have had an effect. I'm not saying that forwards should not be the first line of defence, but there's a balance. Seeing Saka regularly at LB; Martinelli the same and Havertz literally collapsing with exhaustion begs the question of why - if our defence is as good as it's reputed to be - these kinds of sacrifices are necessary. Also, whether the sheer amount of defensive work these players have to do detracts from their sharpness when chances come at the other end.

I think Slot's greatest achievement this season is his load management. Salah is not expected to track back, but the defensive downside has been more than rewarded in g's and a's.

Conversely, our high 'pressing' style condenses play in the opposition's third - meaning less running required for them. The way Liverpool play, the other team is constantly having to bust a gut to keep up with them. With us, they can retreat into a compact defence and basically not have to move too much. There is something to be said for stretching rather than constricting play - both in terms of effectiveness and the relative loads on the teams.

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Originally Posted by KSE Comedy Club

Ironic that he also may be partly responsible for it going back that way in the not too distant future too.

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Interesting point, if they don't get the right summer signings and/or show a more positive playing style next season I think that could well be the case

He's been there 5 years now, one FAC right at the beginning just isn't enough

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Originally Posted by IBK

How do you think this is? (Not disagreeing - just interested). I certainly think that Arteta's obsesion with all of his players - including forwards - defending has been a factor with Saka; Martinelli; Havertz and Odegard. The sheer amount of running they are expected to do has to have had an effect. I'm not saying that forwards should not be the first line of defence, but there's a balance. Seeing Saka regularly at LB; Martinelli the same and Havertz literally collapsing with exhaustion begs the question of why - if our defence is as good as it's reputed to be - these kinds of sacrifices are necessary. Also, whether the sheer amount of defensive work these players have to do detracts from their sharpness when chances come at the other end.

I think Slot's greatest achievement this season is his load management. Salah is not expected to track back, but the defensive downside has been more than rewarded in g's and a's.

Conversely, our high 'pressing' style condenses play in the opposition's third - meaning less running required for them. The way Liverpool play, the other team is constantly having to bust a gut to keep up with them. With us, they can retreat into a compact defence and basically not have to move too much. There is something to be said for stretching rather than constricting play - both in terms of effectiveness and the relative loads on the teams.

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Originally Posted by Mac76

Interesting point, if they don't get the right summer signings and/or show a more positive playing style next season I think that could well be the case

He's been there 5 years now, one FAC right at the beginning just isn't enough

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Was chatting to a Liverpool supporter friend and he mentioned that when they won in 2020 didn't feeel right as there weren't any fans and the same could be said for our FA cup win against Chelsea.

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Originally Posted by dazthegooner

Was chatting to a Liverpool supporter friend and he mentioned that when they won in 2020 didn't feeel right as there weren't any fans and the same could be said for our FA cup win against Chelsea.

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Absolutely, not that it wasn't great to win or that it wasn't deserved or legitimate. It just didn't seem "real" and there were other things going on which took attention away from it.

Even when one goes back and watches the odd highlight from either that season, or moreso the season after, it's almost out into its own little box. It happened but it's.mm different.

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Originally Posted by Shaqiri Is Boss

Absolutely, not that it wasn't great to win or that it wasn't deserved or legitimate. It just didn't seem "real" and there were other things going on which took attention away from it.

Even when one goes back and watches the odd highlight from either that season, or moreso the season after, it's almost out into its own little box. It happened but it's.mm different.

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I hope some of the Liverpool fans who left the city centre in an absolute mess (from my memory you were confirmed as champions on a Thursday despite not playing as City lost at Chelsea) felt bloody ashamed of themselves and helped tidy up the place the next day

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I hope some of the Liverpool fans who left the city centre in an absolute mess (from my memory you were confirmed as champions on a Thursday despite not playing as City lost at Chelsea) felt bloody ashamed of themselves and helped tidy up the place the next day

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I believe you're right, as I remember the team celebrated in.... Iirc Formby Hall.

I stayed away from town for a good few days for that exact reason. Same as I will do if we win this time round.

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I was hoping they'd declare the whole season null and void.
That would have been hilarious :lol:
Although maybe not as we won the FA Cup.
Everything about that season and couple of years was weird.
Remember the curfews and checkpoints? Good times

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