Summer Transfer Speculation and Shit

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Originally Posted by Borini Is Boss

£4m + add ons.

And it'll be used to lower the Lallana deal, I guarantee it.

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He'd be just a big a knobhead as Sagna if he leaves what he has at the moment.

Forget this 'boyhood' crap at 32 years old - he'll go from being the main man upfront to a bit part player who will never share the headlines with the glamour boy strikers at Liverpool. A stupid, stupid move for Lambert. Whether he can grab decisive goals from the bench instead of being a starter remains to be seen. £4m is very low risk for Liverpool however*.




*subject to this being a complete pile of media wank that is.

I think that's a little harsh. I can't imagine Lambert has had many opportunities to play for a big club throughout his career, he's given his best years to Southampton but now has the chance to do something he probably thought would never happen. So he might not be the star of the show, I doubt that will matter to him anyway. Sometimes you just have to take a chance in life rather than sit around in your comfort zone wondering "what if".

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Originally Posted by Marc Overmars

I think that's a little harsh. I can't imagine Lambert has had many opportunities to play for a big club throughout his career, he's given his best years to Southampton but now has the chance to do something he probably thought would never happen. So he might not be the star of the show, I doubt that will matter to him anyway. Sometimes you just have to take a chance in life rather than sit around in your comfort zone wondering "what if".

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Very harsh. You don't want to look back with regrets because you stayed in your comfort zone. Every player must dream of winning a major trophy when they first start out. Also, on the flip side, you must have a real ego on you if you have to be the big fish in a small pond and can't challenge yourself.

He's not a bad player, certainly better than the typical big lump English striker the media seem to love. But I'd be pretty underwhelmed if it were us signing him. Giroud is significantly better. I suppose he'll just be a squad filler for pool.

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Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn

Harsh. He's another one of those prospect types that we don't need but he's not a Heskey. Would take a couple of seasons for him to develop, if he develops at all. Hence the buy-back clause I suppose. Marketing fancy us training him up and then taking him back on the cheap if he comes good. Big step down from last year's Suarez bid though. Still only a rumour but disappointing.

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Yep totally agree with this.

Morata is a classic Wenger "Project Player" Type Signing. He's still very raw but has a lot of untapped potential IMHO. I do feel he is a very overrated, mainly because he is a Real Madrid prospect and they are in a period where they are absolutely desperate to bring through homegrown talent. Any player with a bit of potential in their youth setup is bigged up.

I am not against Morata being signed to compete with Giroud as our no.2 striker but if he is our main striker signing...assuming the rumours are true I will be absolutely livid.

We wont get any top players until the last minute, have you guys forgotten last summer already? We only got Ozil once RM got Bale etc it'll be the same again this year. If RM get a new striker they'll sell us Benz. No top club will sell a top player until they find a replacement. That's how the top clubs do their business, we tend to do the opposite but we're supposedly flush with cash now so it should be different.

I'm sure there'll be lots of tutting and online ranting when teams like Liverpool start buying up mid table squad fillers and there'll be cries of "why aren't we buying anyone?!" but the truth is the market for the top talent owned by the top clubs is different - they'll sell us a player when they have a replacement. That's if they sell at all, why would anyone sell a world class striker - which is what we need.

I'm pretty calm tbh. There's no way that we'd of signed Ozil without giving him assurances that we'll buy big again. No way. He didn't have a great season but he was one of the best players in the world when we signed him, probably top 10, and those players want assurances before joining.

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Originally Posted by Blink 1nce Quince 2wice

Why is he overrated? Is he really that highly rated already.

If I am right in thinking he was the feisty dude who came on in the CL final, I actually thought he played like a midfielder rather than a forward.....made a few tackles before scurrying off up field.

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They rave about his potential in Spain (the pundits), seems to be based on his reputation with the B team though as whenever I see him for Real he's like a headless chicken.

Yeah that's him.

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Originally Posted by Grebbo

We wont get any top players until the last minute, have you guys forgotten last summer already? We only got Ozil once RM got Bale etc it'll be the same again this year. If RM get a new striker they'll sell us Benz. No top club will sell a top player until they find a replacement. That's how the top clubs do their business, we tend to do the opposite but we're supposedly flush with cash now so it should be different.

I'm sure there'll be lots of tutting and online ranting when teams like Liverpool start buying up mid table squad fillers and there'll be cries of "why aren't we buying anyone?!" but the truth is the market for the top talent owned by the top clubs is different - they'll sell us a player when they have a replacement. That's if they sell at all, why would anyone sell a world class striker - which is what we need.

I'm pretty calm tbh. There's no way that we'd of signed Ozil without giving him assurances that we'll buy big again. No way. He didn't have a great season but he was one of the best players in the world when we signed him, probably top 10, and those players want assurances before joining.

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I hope not Grebbo, another summer like last season scrambling around at the close of the window will not be acceptable. We all know what we need, there are no excuses not to make the necessary signings, the money IS there.

I am not panicking yet...but I would hope to see us doing business pretty early, if It means we have to overpay to get the necessary quality in this summer then so be it.

I do kind of agree that we must have sold the clubs vision/our future to Ozil pretty well...but whether that means we sold him a vision of our "Player recruitment policy" remains to be seen.

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Originally Posted by Marc Overmars

I think that's a little harsh. I can't imagine Lambert has had many opportunities to play for a big club throughout his career, he's given his best years to Southampton but now has the chance to do something he probably thought would never happen. So he might not be the star of the show, I doubt that will matter to him anyway. Sometimes you just have to take a chance in life rather than sit around in your comfort zone wondering "what if".

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Earlier in his career if that chance had come up then of course but now, as a striker who has managed to get into the England squad and lead the charge at an exciting, growing club it's a massive risk to take. The next two years - which will effectively wrap up his career - is likely to be spent as a bit part player and risk where he has worked so hard to get to. Sure, playing for a big club is a rare opportunity but timing is equally, if not more important.

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Originally Posted by Kano

He'd be just a big a knobhead as Sagna if he leaves what he has at the moment.

Forget this 'boyhood' crap at 32 years old - he'll go from being the main man upfront to a bit part player who will never share the headlines with the glamour boy strikers at Liverpool. A stupid, stupid move for Lambert. Whether he can grab decisive goals from the bench instead of being a starter remains to be seen. £4m is very low risk for Liverpool however*.
*subject to this being a complete pile of media wank that is.

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I can see what you're saying (I think I've said similar before) but I think I'm right in saying Southampton are pretty relaxed with getting a bit of money for him now. In fact I think they were looking to sell him in January.
But if anything I'd say when you're earlier in your career you should be more inclined to stay at a club where you're playing every week. If you play well, that chance will come round again. Lambert probably won't get another chance.

He'll be cheap, on reasonable wages, has a good record over the last couple of seasons, will be giddy to be on our books again and won't kick up a fuss. I'm pretty relaxed us signing him. Aspas will probably be off too... oh no!

Poor old Southampton though The way it's going they won't have any players left.