Good Bye RVP!

The biggest question I have is whether Giroud and Podolski are replacements for van Persie, or for Park/Bendtner/Vela/Chamakh. If RvP is replaced by a very promising talent; like Yarmolenko, Leandro Damiao, van Wolfswinkel or Destro, then there is a hope the team can challenge. If he is replaced with a proven top striker, like Huntelaar, Llorente or Jovetic, then I fully believe we'll challenge (if a DM is added...).

All the big players Arsenal have lost have been foreign born with ambitions to play for the big continental clubs (Anelka, Vieira, Henry, Fabregas). Who wouldn't want to live in Barcelona? Who wouldn't want to be PAID to live in Barcelona?! Nasri is perhaps the exception (Hleb, Flamini, Petit and Overmars were probably influenced by lifestyle and money). But we've seen what type of man he is (I think Clichy was allowed to go as Wenger ultimately thought Gibbs would be better, and Toure/Adebayor left due to disagreements with key players). I'm not regretting that Nasri and the other ex-Arsenal players at Man City left us. Van Persie; you can see and understand his dilemma. But he shouldn't have said those things in his statement, nor to his Dutch pal before Euro 2012. And if he goes to Man City, that one would hurt.

The case studies that will determine Arsenal's standing, ambition and influence will be Walcott's contract decision, and the futures of Wilshere, Chamberlain, Gibbs and to a certain extent, Szczesny. I can see foreign players like Sagna, Vermaelen and Koscielny wanting to play in another country. But what will our British talent (Szcszesny is practically a Cockney) do?

We don't pay over £10m for bench players with that much experience.

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Originally Posted by Bergkampwonderland10

There is no point in selling for 20million, just goes into kroenkers pocket. From now in we should just trade players. If Man city want rvp, then realistically Johnson and Richards would equate to the same value. Or lescott and Johnson. Both would be more useful to us. In fact why don't we trade Walcott and rvp. Johnson, Richards, lescott and guidetti that Swedish kid that wants out. Then we buy mvila with the sale of all our dead wood combined. Sorted. If wenger isn't getting the cash then trading players is the answer aurely.

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Reckon thats what Stan thinks the way things are done anyway, would explain why we dont see any of his cash

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Originally Posted by BOBN

balotelli is worth 17-20mill. still very inconsistent and prob not a city starter.


so lets see, the guy who keeps richards out of the city team who is adept at left and right back and a fully-fledged international starting defensive midflielder for a premier nation.... or two clowns who cant even get into one of the shittest international squads in europe.

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We're not going to get Balotelli. Get that out of your mind. Wenger would never be able control him anyway and he'd end up causing a riot in our dressing room. We can't even afford his wages, damn it. We have to be realistic.

He's 29 nearly 30.

A player at that age is gonna want a 3 or 4 year deal.

When has AW ever granted that to anyone that age?

He would have stayed if he had gotten his pay packet. No question.

Let's credit our management with a little more common sense than that.

If we sigined himon a 4 year deal as the top earner at the club, where does it leave us when he's on the treatment table, or unable to play consistently / loses pace etc.

Paying massive wages for a player that isn't top quality anymore is where it leaves us....and in more orless the same position as having Bendtner on your books and not being able to shift the ****.

No doubt we offered two years. He said I want four. We said on your bike, and now he's bitter about it.

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Shove it up your arse RVP.

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Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory

We're not going to get Balotelli. Get that out of your mind. Wenger would never be able control him anyway and he'd end up causing a riot in our dressing room. We can't even afford his wages, damn it. We have to be realistic.

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who cares, point is there are many options. almost all of citys squad players would improve us.

zabaleta + de jong + 10 mill. job done.

Had the best part of the day to think about this and even though it took me by surprise I stoll dont feel gutted. It may be that Wenger got in two replacements before we the bomb dropped but I believe we will ride through this storm.
Sure we relied very heavily on RvPs goals last year but if I got any positives from last year was that we played with more togetherness than I have seen for ages. We may not see his category of goal for a while but the team aint going to die and although my initial reaction was to keep him for the last year as I imagine there will be less interest in him come this time next year, I agree with PnG that the risk of damage to the team is great and we need to move on. I think Juve showed us where the bidding starts and those thinking wr are getting 20-40are touched.

I say take 10-15 max and go and test that apparent cheap release clause in Ba's contract, could do worse, PL experience, jump at a chance to play in CL and fuck it get MVila, we obviously have the money as we were iinterested enough before the stories started flying around, we gave enough dead wood to bring in some cash as well, also with RvP and Nic on their way we are going to need at least one stroppy cu#t

Pods - Giourd - Robin sounded good for a brief moment. . .though was never going ti happen

the saddest part is he could have been up there with henry and bergkamp if he guided us to trophies but now he is nothing more than adebayor.

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Originally Posted by LDG

He's 29 nearly 30.

A player at that age is gonna want a 3 or 4 year deal.

When has AW ever granted that to anyone that age?

He would have stayed if he had gotten his pay packet. No question.

Let's credit our management with a little more common sense than that.

If we sigined himon a 4 year deal as the top earner at the club, where does it leave us when he's on the treatment table, or unable to play consistently / loses pace etc.

Paying massive wages for a player that isn't top quality anymore is where it leaves us....and in more orless the same position as having Bendtner on your books and not being able to shift the ****.

No doubt we offered two years. He said I want four. We said on your bike, and now he's bitter about it.

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Shove it up your arse RVP.

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They didn't talk about the contract or wages apparently. If what you said is true, Wenger will make a statement and say we offered him a fair contract or something like that.

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Originally Posted by BOBN

who cares, point is there are many options. almost all of citys squad players would improve us.

zabaleta + de jong + 10 mill. job done.

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Realistically though, how often do players get traded in that way?