Who Will Win The League - 2

At this moment we will do well to finish fourth

Not really.

And it's a myth we always finish 4th. Last 8 years we've finished 4th 4 times and 3rd 4 times.
Would be nice to finish a bit higher, granted.

Either way it's a fact losers finish 3rd and 4th all the time, no club that can truly be called a top club would be happy with those positions, indeed you'll find the bigger clubs always strive to win rather than come 3rd of 4th, those positions are mere consolation prizes due to the fact that you qualify for the CL and the money that brings.

You won't find Barca, Real, Bayern, Juventus, Chelsea, Man United, Man City etc happy coing 3rd or 4th every season, for them it's a disappointment and failure to achieve the ultimate goal.

It's the clubs attitude to coming 3rd/4th that's the problem, we see it as Wenger once said as a major trophy, not what it actually is.

http://www.bbc.com/sport/football/35765289

An example of how the players are succeeding despite the manager. We might as well sack the dinosaur and let the players manage themselves... we are better off without someone as clueless as him.

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Originally Posted by Özim

we see it as Wenger once said as a major trophy

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Major. Yep, that's definitely not made up.

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Originally Posted by fakeyank

http://www.bbc.com/sport/football/35765289

An example of how the players are succeeding despite the manager. We might as well sack the dinosaur and let the players manage themselves... we are better off without someone as clueless as him.

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They did the same thing before the 3-0 United game too earlier on in the season.

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Originally Posted by selassie

They did the same thing before the 3-0 United game too earlier on in the season.

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And the same thing before we beat the gypos a couple of seasons back. If this is genuinely making a difference they need to do it every week or else the Wengeritis will just come back.

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Originally Posted by Letters

Major. Yep, that's definitely not made up.

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It's one of the top 3 trophies

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/foo...-a-trophy.html

I'm not sure what point is trying to be made here when the FA Cup is now treated with derision on here from some now we've won it twice since that.

Well someLetters consider the FA Cup a major trophy, so that would make the CL spot a major trophy. I don't see it as a trophy incidentally, but Wenger does and has often demonstrated his pride in qualifying for the CL.