Who's Next?

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Originally Posted by Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie

Having Arsenal as an asset is probably more valuable to Kroenke than the money he can make from selling his shares even at many times more than what they are worth.

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I bet he's already leveraged that value and intends to do so in the future. That's why the share price is key. If there was some way to force that right down it would be like kicking the bastard in the bollocks. But of course with all the money pouring into the game the share price is far more likely to surge. And who is the best manager that money can buy when it comes to keeping a football club on a nice, sound financial footing?

We're doomed.

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...when asked about his future, Wenger - speaking at his press conference ahead of the West Brom clash - said: 'I do not want to comment on that. I always respect my contract.'

Wenger has insisted his main focus is to secure third place and he has been pleased with the performances despite drawing their last two matches - against West Ham and Crystal Palace. 'It is important of course. We want to win our games, instead of focusing on the table I think it is very important to focus on the process and quality of what we do.

'At the moment that is frustrating as there is a lot of quality in our game, but we have not exactly got the wins that we wanted. We have to focus on that.

'We are not there yet. We want to finish as high as we can. It is not a consolation, it is about getting the best out of the team and focusing and giving everything in every single game. We need to show we have the mental level to compete until the end.

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Don't focus on the table lads, instead focus on the quality of what we do... Oh... Wait! :doh:

It does annoy me how the journalists think they represent the fan base and then ask ridiculous questions like

"If you had a chance would you like to take the oportunity to explain your decision making to the fans, for instance substitutions during games?"

"No"

What a ridiculous fucking question, no manager is going to justify decisions like that to fans because as Wenger says it's never ending.
Frankly the less Wenger says to the fans the better, his attitude in the press conference despite what people think is not deluded it's just utterly contemptible complacency, "well they are throwing a strop again....we can't force them to come to games....but they'll be back....where else are they going to go".


Wenger thinks the fan base is fickle, he's the only one capable of detached rational judgement and we are a bunch of pouting girls on our periods.

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Originally Posted by Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie

It does annoy me how the journalists think they represent the fan base and then ask ridiculous questions like

"If you had a chance would you like to take the oportunity to explain your decision making to the fans, for instance substitutions during games?"

"No"

What a ridiculous fucking question, no manager is going to justify decisions like that to fans because as Wenger says it's never ending.
Frankly the less Wenger says to the fans the better, his attitude in the press conference despite what people think is not deluded it's just utterly contemptible complacency, "well they are throwing a strop again....we can't force them to come to games....but they'll be back....where else are they going to go".


Wenger thinks the fan base is fickle, he's the only one capable of detached rational judgement and we are a bunch of pouting girls on our periods.

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I'm beginning to wonder if he is still the right man for the job.

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Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn

I'm beginning to wonder if he is still the right man for the job.

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How can you say such things?

Back to work in the fields prole, and don't let the masters hear you talking that way.

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Originally Posted by Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie

How can you say such things?

Back to work in the fields prole, and don't let the masters hear you talking that way.

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I'm fickle. One decade I'll say one thing, the next decade I'll say the total opposite.

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Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn

I'm fickle. One decade I'll say one thing, the next decade I'll say the total opposite.

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That's why your not a master

That and you don't descend from a line of robber barons presumably

Wenger has said he won't walk away from his contract. He just makes it sound like he is doing us a favour by staying on.

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Originally Posted by Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie

Given that I've never had a conversation with Stanley Enos Kroenke it is of course an assumption

But it's one based on his attitude as a sports owner across the Atlantic

Now you mention Wenger, and of course he's aware of it unless he's blind which would explain a lot

But as I've stated (as a matter of supposition I should add) Wenger won't like the idea of leaving on a low, has nothing in his life that will replace the hours he puts into the club and obviously still believes he can deliver.

Now if I suppose that Kroenke doesn't give a fuck as long as his bottom line isn't affected, and that Wenger feels a misguided obligation to the club to stay. Then it's not unreasonable to suppose that it won't make any difference.

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What grates most about these conversations is the assumption of how certain parties will react whenever this conversation is brought up. It really grates. Of course you've never spoken to Kronke or Wenger but you talk as if you have. It boils back to previous conversations. For starters, if the West Brom game attendance stays low and demand isn't that high for the game and we see the same pattern over the next few games, we can stop repeating this assumption that once you leave your seat someone else will be happy to take your place. We really don't know how far this feeling of apathy towards the club stretches and that goes back to the original point I made. We had the same conversation a week back. Wait and see what happens.

We really don't know what Wenger is thinking and even though he's likely to see out his contract, we have no idea if he'll sign an extension. The assumptions about where is mind will be in a years time or even come end of the season is a stretch. Most of what's said on here is guess work and hypothetical. I don't really have a problem with that. But it's this attitude of 'everything is hopeless' and telling people what is effective and what's not that bugs me. We really don't know what is effective because we've been doing the same thing for the past 10 years or so.

Takafumi Ogura. It worked last time, for the first ten years at least.