He should have made a different sub which knocked us out.
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He should have made a different sub which knocked us out.
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Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn
Or picked a different team.Quote:
Originally Posted by McNamara That Ghost...
Someone said maybe he should have played a similar team to the weekend, there's something called momentum in football, we'd won 5-2, need a good run of wins and another good one would have done wonders for confidence, with Swansea at the weekend it would have been perfect.
Momentum well and truly stopped now though.
You're implying he can distinguish between clear choices and random lucky dips. But anyway, what he should have done is fuck the hell off in the summer after a decade of failure.Quote:
Originally Posted by McNamara That Ghost...
He planned to win the game. He did.Quote:
Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn
He might have got the rub of the green on this occasion, other games he will have lost unluckily.
Over time that is how probability works as you well know.
After 7 years of which you were quite happy for him to get a new contract.Quote:
Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn
Almost like things aren't as black and white as you (pretend to) believe
HE won the game? :haha:Quote:
Originally Posted by Letters
There's no hope for you Letters. None at all.
So you realise what the odds are of an 18 year old kid coming on with 5 minutes to go and doing that again?
The substitution was a last roll of the dice following the consequences of a totally fucked up team selection, again, with totally fucked up tactics, again, that saw us get outplayed by Norwich on our own patch. These are the facts.
The kid, of course, did great. But to allow one ounce of credit for Wenger after his shitty, shitty personal performance, again, is beyond the pale.
People say you always pitch up to defend the man who can no longer be defended. They are wrong. Sure, you always pitch up. But just when they think there's no possible defence for Wenger, you dig deep and come up with impeccable bullshit.
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Back you come with the same old lie, even though we've been through this several times. So dishonest.Quote:
Originally Posted by Letters
He bought Ozil. He bought Alexis. On that basis and on that basis alone I said fine, if that's the way he intends to keep going then good, that's what we need to do. FINALLY! Because it took the stupid git long enough.
Of course it was a false dawn. We competed for precisely zero titles and we avoided humiliation in precisely zero CLs.
So sure. He fucked up. Show me the evidence and the scorelines and the tables to the contrary.
Your fucked up argument goes that if anyone approves of anything Wenger does then that makes you pro-Wenger. Therefore you can't be anti-Wenger. Weren't you the one accusing people of operating in black and white?
Then, when people criticise the cunt you jump in and accuse them of never giving him credit for anything. More lies. It's what you do.
You get so pissed when people criticise your dad. Don't you?
He is responsible for results, good or bad,Quote:
Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn
And once again you lie about me defending him, all I'm doing is arguing against the bullshit that he's the "luckiest manager in football". That's bollocks, you know it's bollocks.
He's lucky to be in a position where the board care more about profits than results I guess, but in terms of results he's no luckier or unluckier than anyone else who has been at a club for a decent amount of time. Sometimes he'll get lucky in a game and we'll get a result we didn't deserve, other times we'll deserve to win and the referee or sheer dumb bad luck will conspire to deny us. Over time both will happen to any manager.
It's not good luck that we've won 3 FA Cups in 4 years, it's not bad luck that we've failed to challenge for bigger prizes that we should be challenging for.
You are lying about it being a decade of failure. You don't believe that. Firstly because if you did then you wouldn't have approved of the new contract a few years ago after which you now claim was 7 years of failure.Quote:
Back you come with the same old lie, even though we've been through this several times. So dishonest.
Secondly because I said how I saw Wenger's time with us in 3 phases:
1) Glory years
2) Time of steadying the ship during the stadium move when finances were tight and the billionaires were having the big impact
3) Now, when we have the money to compete and are failing to.
You agreed. So you don't think it's been a decade of failure because phase 3 didn't start 10 years ago, you are back-dating your views. Yes, there were failings in that time- as there were in the glory years actually, his weak points have always been evident, looking back - but IMO it wasn't a complete car crash and he got a fair amount right during that time.
No, I get irritated when people talk bollox. "He's the luckiest manager in football". "It doesn't matter how we do, he will never get fired". "We have an average squad". "He's the worst manager in football".Quote:
You get so pissed when people criticise your dad. Don't you?
In terms of results he's neither luckier, in general, or unluckier than any other manager.
In terms of his position, the board clearly care more about money than results but those things are correlated, if the results get so bad the money stops rolling in then they'll remove him.
We clearly have a far above average squad and there are obviously much worse managers around.
If you believe these things you're an idiot. If you don't you're a liar. Pick one.
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Fine. Wenger is above average and not the luckiest manager alive.
Jesus. If you need it that badly then have it.
But I did notice you doubling down with that lie about me agreeing with your assessment of the middle period of Wenger's reign and his safe stewardship and general wonderfulness. Like I said, it looked like the cock was finally starting to stock the team for a challenge. But this summer we'll experience Wenger's biggest failure yet as the players who were supposed to drive that challenge escape L'Genius' clutches. So when his renaissance is in fact his greatest setback then sure, he's been a fuck-up for a decade. But okay, an above average fuck-up and not the luckiest fuck-up alive.