Arsenal v Liverpool. Sunday 27th Oct. 16:30

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Originally Posted by 21_GOONER_SALUTE

Well if we'd taken the half chances that fell to Havertz and Martinelli better.....who knows.

With all the injuries we had, a point isn't that bad.

However Salah's goal was extremely poor and naive defending and once again shows we struggle when our first team players aren't around.

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You can say that about any team though. If you’re telling me City haven’t been massively impacted by losing Rodri I’d say you’ve not been watching City.

Good point I suppose but the second half demonstrated why the criticism about being overly defensive is there.

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Originally Posted by 21_GOONER_SALUTE

I also think this was a terrible decision.

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I was also surprised but it's possible Saka needed to come off because of his injury

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Originally Posted by Marc Overmars

Good point I suppose but the second half demonstrated why the criticism about being overly defensive is there.

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How is it a good point, we took the lead twice.

This is every bit as poor a result as losing to Bournemouth.

So the ref had blown his whistle before Havertz netted but was he right to? Was there a foul?

And apparently we should have had a corner at the end

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Originally Posted by HCZ_Reborn

How is it a good point, we took the lead twice.

This is every bit as poor a result as losing to Bournemouth.

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That's a bit silly, we literally had none of our first choice defence in their positions against a good attacking team

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Originally Posted by HCZ_Reborn

How is it a good point, we took the lead twice.

This is every bit as poor a result as losing to Bournemouth.

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Alluding to the fact the entire defence was obliterated by the end however yes I am also irritated that we didn’t hold on.

If we win the next five then it's alright I guess but dropping points in four games already when dropping points in 10 last season was too much.

Can't have many more of these.

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Originally Posted by HCZ_Reborn

You can say that about any team though. If you’re telling me City haven’t been massively impacted by losing Rodri I’d say you’ve not been watching City.

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Yeah the quality of their play has been affected but not their mentality.....no matter what the situation is they try and win or grab something.

I said it earlier in the thread that I noticed nervousness in the defence, so I kind of knew Liverpool was always going to score.....just a shame we couldn't make any of the half chances count and we have idiots like Raya trying to run down the clock in the sixtieth minute or so.

The biggest shift in this team has been the mentality, the negativity is just so overwhelming and surprising....but what exactly is responsible for the shift is not something glaring IMO.....I mean Arteta choosing to plays 7- 8 defensive players anytime we take a lead might have something to do with it, but it seems there is something more....

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Originally Posted by Mac76

So the ref had blown his whistle before Havertz netted but was he right to? Was there a foul?

And apparently we should have had a corner at the end

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I think he felt Havertz used his hands to either control the ball while jumping or to get leverage. I think this particular decision was fair.

Oh and I heard the whistle or either saw his gesture cause I also knew it wasn't a goal.