Summer Transfer Speculation and Shit.

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Originally Posted by Letters

It was never a 'stage'. We didn't have the money. Now we do, he's spending it.

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Big misconception about our money situation.

Examples

http://www.transferleague.co.uk/arse...enal-transfers

Season 07/08

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Samir Nasri £15,800,000
Aaron Ramsey £5,000,000
Luke Freeman £200,000
Lassana Diarra £4,000,000
Bakari Sagna £6,000,000

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Munich signed Ribery for less than £20m and Liverpool signed Torres for £25m that same year I think. We could afford one of them at least. The following season we sell Hleb and Flamini but go into the season with only Bischoff and Silvestre as our Summer signings. A bloody disgraceful summer that. But some how come winter we manage to find almost £16m to sign Arshavin in January on deadline day.

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Season 11/12
Carl Jenkinson Free
Gervinho £10,600,000
Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain £12,000,000
Joel Campbell £950,000
Park Chu-Young £3,000,000
André Santos £6,200,000
Mikel Arteta £10,000,000
Per Mertesacker £10,000,000
Thomas Eisfeld £475,000

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We went for quantity over quality and a good chunk of those players are gone now. At least £20m down the toilet right there and that doesn't include wages.

We've had money to spend. It doesn't matter if it's come from selling players, the problem is we've spent badly.

Unless there's a glaring hole in the side, or we're planning for someone's long-term replacement, then the impression I get is that Wenger is more or less happy with his squad as it is, and is only really on the lookout for the odd exceptional player who is literally too good
to pass up on?

I can see there being some truth to some of these CB and LB rumours that we keep seeing, given that 3/4s of our first choice back 4 will be in their 30s this season, but beyond that I think we're looking at opportunistic moves, if someone awesome comes along who is clearly miles better than someone we have in the same role...

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Originally Posted by Firmino Is Boss

£32.5 MILLION POUNDS for Benteke!

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When you see things like that you can almost understand why Wenger doesn't want to participate in the transfer market

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Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory

Big misconception about our money situation.

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In your examples you're only considering players bought, not those sold. The net situation is the more significant one.
It's only in the last few years we've had a big net spend, when the new financial deals were in place.

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Originally Posted by Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie

When you see things like that you can almost understand why Wenger doesn't want to participate in the transfer market

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The crazy thing is the money is almost no object now with this new Sky TV deal - if we're finishing anywhere in the top 4 then we're getting close to £100m a year just for taking part!

The problem now is actually making sure you're getting a £30-50m player for your £30-50m - that's where I think Wenger's opinion probably differs quite wildly from a lot of other people's, and where his reluctance to spend starts to creep in. Say what you want about the players he's taken a punt on or signed for lesser fees, when he get's his cheque book out for someone over £30m, I think he expects someone on Sanchez or Ozil's level for his money...

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Originally Posted by Letters

In your examples you're only considering players bought, not those sold. The net situation is the more significant one.
It's only in the last few years we've had a big net spend, when the new financial deals were in place.

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What we sold is irrelevant. If you decide to sell your house do you decide to then buy a caravan and tents as an equivalent? We were still able to raise the funds and spend it.

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Originally Posted by Letters

In your examples you're only considering players bought, not those sold. The net situation is the more significant one.
It's only in the last few years we've had a big net spend, when the new financial deals were in place.

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Also, whilst I'd also prefer quality over quantity in an ideal world, I think that only really works if you're talking about the difference between 1 vs 2 or more players in the same area - if your squad is thin, and you desperately need to buy players across multiple areas, then quantity is pretty much your only choice (unless your scouts (and luck) are unbelievably good)...

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Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory

What we sold is irrelevant.

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The net spend is irrelevant to the issue of how much money we had before the new financial deals were in place?

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Originally Posted by Letters

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The net spend is irrelevant to the issue of how much money we had before the new financial deals were in place?

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This is basic stuff, Letters. If you sold your car, house or whatever asset, how much money will you be left with to spend?

You can't say we had no money to spend.

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Originally Posted by I am invisible

The crazy thing is the money is almost no object now with this new Sky TV deal - if we're finishing anywhere in the top 4 then we're getting close to £100m a year just for taking part!

The problem now is actually making sure you're getting a £30-50m player for your £30-50m - that's where I think Wenger's opinion probably differs quite wildly from a lot of other people's, and where his reluctance to spend starts to creep in. Say what you want about the players he's taken a punt on or signed for lesser fees, when he get's his cheque book out for someone over £30m, I think he expects someone on Sanchez or Ozil's level for his money...

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Agreed - thats why we should be all over Vidal for £28 mill, especially using Sanchez as a contact.