Giroud Discourse

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Originally Posted by Terry Tuffnutz

as good as yes. taking away as much credit as possible from wenger for the clubs achievements in those years, without actually having the nuts to say wenger done nothing in your eyes except diets - because you know you'd be laughed out of town for it.

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He was a winner and a leader on the pitch, today we have none of that and the results are evident.

I'd suggest Adams' forte was on the pitch and that Wenger let the players deal with the match side, in terms of motivation and in terms of being able to react to events due to their experience and determination...we've already seen that Wenger hasn't a clue when it comes to tactics, motivation and substitutions.

I'm sorry but I know longer rate the guy that highly, he's gone too long without delivering anything. IMO any big club would be foolish to employ him if they want success on the pitch.

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Originally Posted by Boss

Ability means nothing when it's not matched with an attitude that shows it on the pitch.

Let's not forget Balotelli cost almost as much as Van Persie. I can only imagine the level of bedwetting on here had we signed him for the amount he cost and had he put in similar levels of performances, at best he's nothing more than yet another youth project, and while he may come good he's not at Giroud's level right now and would not help us much on the pitch.

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I think you're off with that one. Arshavin is an example of someone with talent but poor application but there is no way I could say a player like Gervinho is a level above him just because he works harder when playing.

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Originally Posted by Boss

Ability means nothing when it's not matched with an attitude that shows it on the pitch.

Let's not forget Balotelli cost almost as much as Van Persie. I can only imagine the level of bedwetting on here had we signed him for the amount he cost and had he put in similar levels of performances, at best he's nothing more than yet another youth project, and while he may come good he's not at Giroud's level right now and would not help us much on the pitch.

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He's shown his ability on the pitch before, he's pretty young though and will mature in time.

As for the price, well yes but that's because we sold RVP dirt cheap, if we'd been a bit clevered we'd have kept him under contract and got 35-40 million for him.

He's way better than Giroud, he's scored plenty of goals for City, Giroud has scored a few but missed a shedload and is a pretty ordinary players.

I'd take Balotelli over him anyday in the hope in time he can be tamed and let his football do the talking.

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Originally Posted by Arse n Wonga

He's shown his ability on the pitch before, he's pretty young though and will mature in time.

As for the price, well yes but that's because we sold RVP dirt cheap, if we'd been a bit clevered we'd have kept him under contract and got 35-40 million for him.

He's way better than Giroud, he's scored plenty of goals for City, Giroud has scored a few but missed a shedload and is a pretty ordinary players.

I'd take Balotelli over him anyday in the hope in time he can be tamed and let his football do the talking.

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balotelli has scored about 2 goals this season, giroud has about 9.

No one here really wants Balotelli at this club, surely?

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Originally Posted by Terry Tuffnutz

as good as yes. taking away as much credit as possible from wenger for the clubs achievements in those years, without actually having the nuts to say wenger done nothing in your eyes except diets - because you know you'd be laughed out of town for it.

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out of the unbeatables squad. there are about three players (off the top of my head) that we can say werent wengers. bergkamp, keown, parlour. (and cole at a push but wenger gave him his debut)

to give fuck all credit to wenger for building that squad, doing something that not even the great barcelona side of today have done, is pathetic, immature and bitter

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Originally Posted by ollie the optimist

balotelli has scored about 2 goals this season, giroud has about 9.

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He's not had a good season and hasn't played much, but he got 20 odd last season.

If you get him playing he's streets ahead of Giroud though, talent wise he's right up there.

I want Wenget gone but its important we don't let recent years cloud the great memories we're all lucky to have.

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Originally Posted by Arse n Wonga

He's not had a good season and hasn't played much, but he got 20 odd last season.

If you get him playing he's streets ahead of Giroud though, talent wise he's right up there.

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talent wise diaby is right up there. the point is nonsense. he causes more probelms then he is worth. he might have scored 20 goals last year, however, he hasnt this year. you never know with him. and the reason he hasnt played much is his own fault. the poor attiude, the off field dramas etc.

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Originally Posted by ollie the optimist

out of the unbeatables squad. there are about three players (off the top of my head) that we can say werent wengers. bergkamp, keown, parlour. (and cole at a push but wenger gave him his debut)

to give fuck all credit to wenger for building that squad, doing something that not even the great barcelona side of today have done, is pathetic, immature and bitter

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Many of them came through playing with the likes of Adams, Keown etc so learnt a lot from them...that makes a big difference, Bergkamp was a massive player as well.

Sorry but Wenger as good as people thought after all, I reckon people got it wrong. If he was that good he'd have done something of note since 2005, the fact he hasn't says plenty about him.