Summer Transfer Shit and Everything Else

[QUOTE=HCZ_Reborn;4593312]I don’t believe at all you do think I have an “unhealthy obsession” with anything, it’s more you playing the man rather than the ball because you don’t have a response to the more substantive point being made.

You don't think it's noteworthy that every time you wanted to use a metaphor it was along the lines of "like a sex offender/child molester/ etc etc "? instead of literally millions of other metaphors or examples you could have chosen?

anyway I'm happy to say I absolutely don't think you are one, does that help?

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Originally Posted by HCZ_Reborn

I don’t believe at all you do think I have an “unhealthy obsession” with anything, it’s more you playing the man rather than the ball because you don’t have a response to the more substantive point being made.

You don't think it's noteworthy that every time you wanted to use a metaphor it was along the lines of "like a sex offender/child molester/ etc etc "? instead of literally millions of other metaphors or examples you could have chosen?

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And all of these examples were to express negativity or express displeasure


This started with me saying that Nelson had the first touch of a rapist, you were always protective of Nelson so I’m not inclined to believe that this analogy raised a red flag for you, you just didn’t like my criticism of him.


First touch of a rapist comes from “All in the Game” where Ray Winstone plays a foul mouthed football manager. Also came out with lines like “I’m sweating like a blind lesbian in a fishmongers”


The other thing which I recall comes from having a dark sense of humour, making fun of Belgium who had been beaten by France - Land of waffles, chips and mayonnaise, Stella Artois etc

Marc Dutroux you may or may not be aware is a subject of mockery between Flemish and Waloon Belgians. In fact it was a well known football chant in Belgium football when teams from Flanders played teams from French speaking Belgium.

Because Dutroux was one of the most infamous criminals in Belgium and was a Waloon, it was an excuse for the flems to call the Waloons nonces.

The thing is, unless you’ve lived in a hermetically sealed bubble you’ve been around long enough to know that especially when it comes to football fandom, certain unsavoury language is used…this is why I find your insistence that this a sign of derangement or prurience on my part is rather irritating especially as I say I don’t think it comes from a genuine place of concern.


And to be fair, given you’ve criticised my spelling of players names or equally irrelevant things and then told me I’m being snippy because I tell you quite honestly that I don’t care. My conclusion is either that you’re a bit on the spectrum with this stuff, or you’re desperate to be able to convince yourself that you’ve won an argument….and this is why I’m not inclined to take your moralising with any due seriousness

I'd say at this point you were protesting a bit too much, but as I say I am not casting aspertions other than to say there are patently millions of other ways of expressing your thoughts other than the terms you have so often chosen to, but that's your choice whatever, I'll let you reflect on whether it has any meaning

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Originally Posted by Mac76

I'd say at this point you were protesting a bit too much, but as I say I am not casting aspertions other than to say there are patently millions of other ways of expressing your thoughts other than the terms you have so often chosen to, but that's your choice whatever, I'll let you reflect on whether it has any meaning

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Brass tacks I’m protesting because I don’t like someone smarmily inferring things about my character because that’s the only way they can think of to win an argument. Of course there are other allusions I can make but so what…. My way of thinking is police your own language, not that of other people its not my job to be someone’s conscience or moral arbiter, and it’s not their job to be mine especially when as I suspect it’s totally disingenuous anyhow.

Is that my problem? Of course it is.

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Originally Posted by HCZ_Reborn

No fan of Arteta but I think he dealt with it well in the post match Villa interview

Whether that will be his stance behind closed doors who knows (maybe you can find a clip in training where Arteta doesn’t shake his hand to read too much into :lol:)

I don’t respect players sulking like that publicly to be honest. However what I will say is that despite the petulance, he produced enough on the pitch (not just the goal) to say “I think you should start me”. That’s the action I want to see from players who are unhappy at not starting.

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Have we actually ascertained what that was all about from him?

I thought it was a bit odd at the time and everyone just decided it's because he wasn't starting games.

Personally I think he's mainly been average whenever he starts and is much better as an impact sub, but maybe he thinks differently

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Originally Posted by HCZ_Reborn

Brass tacks I’m protesting because I don’t like someone smarmily inferring things about my character because that’s the only way they can think of to win an argument. Of course there are other allusions I can make but so what…. My way of thinking is police your own language, not that of other people its not my job to be someone’s conscience or moral arbiter, and it’s not their job to be mine especially when as I suspect it’s totally disingenuous anyhow.

Is that my problem? Of course it is.

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I wasn't deploying it to win any argument, i don't need to, i just thought it noteworthy, you're constantly acucseding me of being somewhere on the spectrum or whatever so if you don't want to be judged then don't judge others

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Personally I think he's mainly been average whenever he starts and is much better as an impact sub, but maybe he thinks differently

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At first yes, but he grew into the starting role, especially with Havertz up front

Bit of talk that we’re considering Kingsley Coman.

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Originally Posted by Mac76

I wasn't deploying it to win any argument, i don't need to, i just thought it noteworthy, you're constantly acucseding me of being somewhere on the spectrum or whatever so if you don't want to be judged then don't judge others

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Again as I’ve said I can’t prove that’s why you do it, but when taking your posting in totality it’s far more reasonable to come to that conclusion than that you are genuinely affronted by crude terminology.


Plus you have almost never won an argument against me on its merits, your common baseline go to when asked to evidence your view is “loads of people I know think the same” which is the same rhetorical trick that Fox News used to use when lacking evidence for an assertion for them it was “some people say”.

I don’t know, maybe you lack the self awareness to see what you’re doing. I haven’t claimed definitively you’re on the spectrum, I’ve speculated that this is a possibility because of the manner of some of your responses. Occam’s Razor suggests however that it’s more likely you’re smug and self-satisfied, believe yourself to be morally superior to most other people which actually when you go deeper than surface level actually hides some pretty ugly views you have about anyone outside the bubble you inhabit.

But I think personally judging someone for being a smug and self-satisfied virtue signaller is a lot less heinous than accusing someone of harbouring violent sexual thoughts.