They are. They'd participate in the limb breaking.Quote:
Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory
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They are. They'd participate in the limb breaking.Quote:
Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory
One player can only do so much, it's the manager's job to build the team and make it successful, the buck stops with him. One player isn't going to win you trophies alone.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jam Persie
It's a joke how bitter people are, did you honestly expect him to stick around when this club's has no ambition? Wake up and smell the coffee, the board and manager are the problem not the players, they keep leaving as they all know we're small time and there's nothing to be had by staying.
Perhaps, but this one player did largely fuck all for 8 years. I think all that billy big bollox in the Holland camp was true in the end.Quote:
Originally Posted by ItsMe
And fans who are bitter are a joke? You're having the time of your life, mucking about in the misery, seems to me you're the joke.
His goalscoring record is actually pretty shit, and only looks decent because of his purple patch last season. I don't think he's a big loss.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jam Persie
However, the bigger issue is that we keep losing first team players, and most of these players are saying it's because of trophies. Yes, he's being billy big bollocks and I don't respect him for that, but the point about our lack of ambition is true, and the blame lies with the board and Wenger.
There certainly do seem to be underlying cracks and we're not among the big spending clubs; not that we ever were. Having said that, he's still a ****. I couldn't care less about his reasons - none are adequate and demonstrate a complete lack of character. I'm disappointed in having felt that he had some.Quote:
Originally Posted by Joker
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Originally Posted by Jam Persie
His contract has one year left he's entitled to do what he wants, he'd have to be a plank to stick around and play for Wenger anymore, the guy is a clown and if people like you didn't keep supporting his incompetent actions we might actually get somewhere.
Funny how people change their opinions just like that when things don't go as they thought they would, if anyone is the joke it's you not me my friend, I stick by my opinions unlike you who changes them the minute things don't go the way you expected.
Foolish consistency in the hobgoblin of small minds. Sticking to your rubbish opinions, regardless, makes you a foolish simpleton.Quote:
Originally Posted by ItsMe
Listen to yourself will you, is this how you react to things not going your way? Wake up and grow up is my advice....because I'm not the one making a fool of myself with childish words.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jam Persie
If you lived in the real world you'd have seen this happening and might not be so bitter.
Yeah, that was Ralph Waldo Emerson said that. I was just quoting. Maybe he should grow up too.Quote:
Originally Posted by ItsMe
Your advice is basically, 'stop being a fan, be a mealy-mouthed realist instead'. Yeah, no thanks mate. I'll take the rough with the smooth rather than sit on the sidelines hating the club and hoping my shitty opinions about my club will come true so I can feel my unchanging opinions have been validated.
You give shit advice.
And? There's a reason you used those words and it had nothing to do with football.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jam Persie
My advice isn't to stop being a fan, it's to wake up and smell the coffee and recognise there's big problems at this club and things need to change. You can bury your head in the sand and blame departing players but guess what, this will keep happening cos the problem isn't the players my friend.
This isn't the rough and the smooth, this is money men taking their cut and not giving a toss about anything but money and taking you for a ride by feeding you BS. This isn't the normal scenario for a football fan, this club has been going downhill sadly and I hate the direction we've been heading in and I'm very vocal about it.
You keep living in this dreamworld where you put the blame on all the wrong people if you like though if it makes you feel better.