Ok so your telling me if we should not bother with Hazard or M'Villa because they are in the French league. So who would you buy from other leagus and for whay prices(reasonable).Quote:
Originally Posted by Joker
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Ok so your telling me if we should not bother with Hazard or M'Villa because they are in the French league. So who would you buy from other leagus and for whay prices(reasonable).Quote:
Originally Posted by Joker
No I'm not saying that, and I should have made it clear in my reply. You're right that if there is a top quality player from the French League who could improve the squad, of course we should sign him. The issue is that we're looking for bargain basement signings from the French League, and it's the combination of these two factors that's pissing fans off.Quote:
Originally Posted by Charlie the Gooner
one for the future it seems.Quote:
Originally Posted by Save me Jeebus!
Maybe, in 3-4 years. Maybe Wenger is preparing to change the style we play and views this new guy (have we actually signed him?) as a utility player much like Park at Utd. Big regret noew we ever let Eduardo go. We've had such shit options up front when RvP is out. Nick is a very average player and that useless turd we brought in last year is just one giant piss take. Would have liked to see a potent striker come in who could score goals for us this season, not some season down the road. Forlan would have been a great signing too given he'd arrive knowing what to expect.Quote:
Originally Posted by Save me Jeebus!
No he didnt. That's the media making up shit again.Quote:
Originally Posted by GunnerFan4Life
Wenger said that if they didnt want to sell him for what we offered, then they can keep the player, so he doesnt see why they should be offended by the offer, as they dont loose out as they can still keep the player.
Adebayor was a 1 in 4 striker at Monaco. He hit 30 goals for us and had a 1 in 2 record during his time with us. There's always a chance, this new guy or some of the others could do something like that. But I'm sure you'll now dismiss Adebayor's record with us as a fluke because he didn't hit the ball cleanly or something.
Doesn't matter if he cost €3m, if he's the right player, which he could be. We can't be sure atm. Maybe, more money will be spent where it's more desperately needed, such as in midfield and defence.
You're trying to deal in certainties, saying he "won't do what's most important", but you don't know this for sure.
Of course, this is all happening stupidly late at the end of the window...
Yeah but with that Gartside twat believing everything he sees on twitter, any old crap in the media is likely to influence him too.Quote:
Originally Posted by Save me Jeebus!
If we can get a holding midfielder in who will allow Wilshere and Ramsey to move up the park more, I think Park will be a good addition to the club.
With respect to his valuation, where are people getting the 3 million pounds and 6 million pound figures from?
That last line is crucial tbh. Why the fuck have we left it so late? This is what happens when you're obsessed with trying to sign players for as low a price as possible. You try and drag it out till the last day and force the selling clubs' hand. However, this leads to extreme uncertainty at the club and contributes to the sort of dodgy start we've had. It would surely have been better to complete business before the season starts even if it meant paying more for players, because we'd have had a settled side and would have probably taken at least 4 out of 6 points at the start of the season, instead of just one.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kaiser
But it seems this club is more obsessed with money than what happens on the pitch :coffee:
Sorry, the £6m was referring to Oxlaid-Chamberlain. The 3m for Park is from L'Equipe, Canal+ and I think the BBC have mentioned it too.Quote:
Originally Posted by goonerholler
Unless Park wins an Olympic Gold Medal, he'll be conscripted in to the military for two years minimum. However that is true of any able-bodied Korean, so I am sure we can take care of that. :good:
Although now I read footballers might be exempt. :rolleyes:
Lets be honest, how many people knew much about Park Ji Sung before he signed for Utd?
I'd never even fucking heard of him, but he does ok for a backup winger/striker for them, scores some important goals too.
Would any of you have him at arsenal? I sure as hell would, he's a good squad player for sure and I see no reason why Park chu Young wouldnt be of similar quality.
Have any of you ever thought that maybe, just maybe, the team setup at monaco just wasnt quite right for him? He could be exactly the player we need who will run into the box to get on the end of Jenkinsons quality crosses, and it looks like he can take FK's unlike RVP who is now shit at them.
Give this guy a chance, he hasnt even signed for us currently ffs.
Younggunsblog confirming on twitter that Park Chu Young was at colney, met with players and is having a medical today
very underwhelming signing. we have all this cash and this is the best we can come up with? im sure park is a decent footballer but come on, we've been crying out for a natural goalscorer for years. just when you thought we were going to sign players like Hazard and Mvila, Wenger comes up with his usual stuff...relatively unknow from the league 1.
yay
:doh:
Wenger just go.
You people... :ilt:
He was well known in Holland and was one of PSV's best players so he was well known.Quote:
Originally Posted by Save me Jeebus!
Also in midfield it's fine to have a Korean as they work hard and that's a useful asset, up front though different story, we need a goalscorer and no amount of hard work will make up for that.
In short different type of signing and I don't trust Wenger to get it right.
10 behind you guys again as I make my way home, and did not expect to see this as our first use of our riches, havent seen the price as I skipped back but he had better be cheap! And by no means the striker we are supposedly looking forQuote:
Originally Posted by Marc Overmars
Dont care much about what Bolton think about our bid as that story has legs to run with and we will go back for him but I do hope we aint pissed Lille off
do see things havet changed over the day tho. . . .caught sight of and looking forward to reading Joker new bitch about Wenger. . . .when I was a child I was quite happy to go outside and play, seems like kids today want to stay in and use the computer all day
Hard work in training is likely to improve his finishing, as somebody already mentioned Ade had a better strike rate after coming here, although I'm sure comparison to Ade isn't enough to sway you :dQuote:
Originally Posted by ItsMe
Also, sometimes players do a lot better in the Prem than in other countries, different leagues require different qualities; bottom line is we need to wait and see before burning him at the stake.
We need to get rid of this guy before the window closes.Quote:
Give this guy a chance, he hasnt even signed for us currently ffs.
Christ on a bike!!!! I have never seen so much negativity in my life. This Yung guy is getting slated before he has even signed. I'll give him the benefit of the doubt. Give him 10 games then, if he is not up to standard, give him an appraisal.
F*ck me how many get out of jail cards does Wenger get.
We sell a load of players over the summer making a shedload of cash and he manages to keep people happy with a few mickey mouse signings.
No wonder they think they can take the p*ss out of the fans, they must be laughing all the way to the bank right now.
We've got loads of money, as I said before I expect to see us spend it on some proven quality players now, pet projects and nobodies with average goal records just won't do.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/14692916.stm
"We haven't had a telephone call, nothing. From what we understand he could be at Arsenal," said Lille president Michel Seydoux.
"Like Monaco, Lille are baffled. Everything [about his move] had been agreed."
Looks like we have pissed Lille off.
We need quality players. Not these run of the mill players who wont improve us much if at all.
Thats why we arent happy.
I'm all for this chinese fella.
His compatriot Miyaichi should make him feel right at home.Quote:
Originally Posted by Grimandi's Perm
Noone cares if Lille are pi*ssed off to be honest, we were never going to get Hazard in a month of Sundays, the deal was a no goer.Quote:
Originally Posted by Edinburgh Gooner
What people do care about is us signing mickey mouse players instead of proven quality, hope Lille kick up a big fuss and force the transfer through and threaten Monaco with action if they don't comply.
We've given Wenger the benefit of the doubt for the last 5 seasons. He keeps making signings like these, either young, unproven players who are supposedly "super quality" or obscure signings from the French League. We were all prepared to give players like Bendtner, Denilson, Diaby, Squillaci, Koscielny, Bischoff, Chamakh, etc time to show their so called "ability", but that has yet to happen. How many more chances should Wenger get? For how much longer should fans simply sit on their hands and say, "well, he may turn out to be half decent"? All the evidence over the last few years suggests Wenger is clueless in the transfer window, and signings like this do little to counter that.
We've fucked up the transfer window, that's already been done and gone over with a fine-tooth shit-comb so we can either look at the guys we've brought in (if anything happens ofc...) and hope for the best or sit around bitching for hours on end about how shitty everything is, actually we can do both but I'd prefer to do the former a little more.Quote:
Originally Posted by ItsMe
How the fuck are Monaco baffled? They must've accepted an offer.Quote:
Originally Posted by Edinburgh Gooner
I think Monaco are more pissed off at Park.
Anyway, I don't care.
Im not dutch, I dont live in holland or watch their tv stations and I dont support PSV.Quote:
Originally Posted by ItsMe
:shrug:
And if Monaco are "baffled" about Young signing for us, then doesn't that suggest something dodgy is going on? Surely ourselves and Monaco need to agree on a fee first? I also hope the deal breaks down to be honest, and Wenger realises that he needs to stop fucking about in the bargain basement and go for a real quality striker who can actually provide competition for RVP, and when stepping in for him when he gets injured, can actually do atleast as good as job as him (hopefully better)
Why exactly are we looking at cheap nobodies though, we should still be trying to buy quality, there's still time if we're willing to pay.Quote:
Originally Posted by Darth Vela
Seems to me though that we won't pay up, 3 million just about sums it's up we're so cheap we won't shell out and would rather f*ck up our season than spend a bit more.
Really sad state of affairs and quite sad that fans are willing to accept that as well, how can you expect any change of attitude at the club when you accept pretty much everything they do as if you were a beggar on the street desperate for some food.
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Originally Posted by Ach
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Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn
Well saidQuote:
Originally Posted by Darth Vela
Exactly, we've been extremely patient with Wenger and his eccentric signings, and this summer is the straw that's broken the camel's back (although for some they lost faith in Wenger 1-2 seasons ago)Quote:
Originally Posted by ItsMe
Fair enough but PSV have always been a big club in Holland (use to win the title every season for a while), RVN and Stam came from there after all and weren't cheap.Quote:
Originally Posted by Save me Jeebus!
Ajax and PSV are the main teams there with Feyenoord 3rd.
I'm pretty sure this is opportunistic, I'd like to think he isn't top of our list but I'm sure we've seen enough of him to convince us that he's worth a shot.Quote:
Originally Posted by ItsMe
How can you expect any change if you bitch in outrage at everything we do? Neither makes a blind bit of difference to what we do.
Fair enough :good:Quote:
Originally Posted by ItsMe