There's no irony there.Quote:
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There's no irony there.Quote:
Originally Posted by Charlie the Gooner
Your point makes no sense, you said:Quote:
Originally Posted by Charlie the Gooner
Clearly you're saying he never said RVP should not move, or that he would blame him if he did.Quote:
jeebus never said he should not move on did he or said he blame him if he did.
In that case he'd be f*cked off with him if he didn't sign a new contract, if he doesn't sign he'll move on in all likelyness as we'll have to cash in rather than lose him for free.
What im saying it id doubt Jeebus wants him to go. But was just saying if RVP did not sign a contract then Fuck him basically. Its more of a no one is bigger then the club thing.Quote:
Originally Posted by ItsMe
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Originally Posted by ItsMe
Of course their is Irony there because right now i doubt one gooner would say this lol.Quote:
a) You don't have to give him a new contract
I personally think he'll leave if we either don't make CL or don't significantly strengthen the team.
Well obviously but at the time this wasn't the case, many thought we should have got rid.Quote:
Originally Posted by Charlie the Gooner
I think hell leave even if we do make the CL. RVP isnt stupid - he cant have failed to see over the last few matches that we are simply no match for the top teams. He hasnt won anything and is one of the world's best players. If he was 23 Id say he would stay a bit but this is possibly his last contract ( with all his previous injuries I cant see how he would play into his mid-30s) and he can make shit loads of money elsewhere. He may not go to a British club but could chance his arm at one of the Spanish clubs for example. Much will depend on whether we buy the two Dutch defenders we are after. If we do, that could well encourage RVP to stay.
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Originally Posted by selassie
Then he should have gone last summer if he thought that.Quote:
Originally Posted by jelgoon
Charlie, to be fair, he's been playing at a "world class" level this season, he wasn't last season, though he was very good.Quote:
Originally Posted by Charlie the Gooner
We're just lucky to have him at the moment, he's several levels above anybody else in the squad and if we lose him and predictably don't replace him then I actually feel we'll be at the level of Everton or Liverpool, basically a top 6 side at best.
There's a huge difference between this season and last with RVP. Last season, as with many before, he was injured. Im not even sure many clubs would have been interested. Now he has proved that he can go a whole season without getting injured, has won both Player of the Year awards and is one of the hottest players on the planet. Huge difference. Also his contract now only has a year to go whereas last season he was just past midway through it.
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Originally Posted by Charlie the Gooner
I know that, but if he wanted to go because of the players would he not have pushed for a move in the summer, i mean he saw the state of the team and knew what could happen.Quote:
Originally Posted by jelgoon
Its a difficult one. Maybe last season he felt he hadnt played much and didnt want to rock the boat after the club had been so patient with him. I think he probably still thinks that but if a huge club was to come in for him it may turn his head.
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Originally Posted by Charlie the Gooner
Possibly.Quote:
Originally Posted by jelgoon
City can feck offQuote:
Manchester City are offering Arsenal striker Robin van Persie, 28, a £250,000-a-week deal to lead their attack.
Full story: Metro
www.metro.co.uk
Wouldnt blame him if he goes
This is why shitty are a joke team, they have several strikers who are already on that sort of money and buying up more to weaken their opponents is a tactic open to them but nobody else, not even the chavs to the same degree. And all because they are run by a bunch of crooks who have somehow cornered the natural resources of a whole nation.Quote:
Originally Posted by Charlie the Gooner
Or, the metro has just made that up out of thin air.
Can't see RvP going to another PL team, that would be a kick in the teeth for us and I don't get the impression he's an utter, utter **** like lesbian or the whore.
some french journalist is claiming that he knows that RVP will tell the team and us tomorrow that he is staying.
also his wife has said to the mirror, that they are happy in london and dont want to go
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Originally Posted by ollie the optimist
http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/footba...bouchra-830189Quote:
Robin van Persie's wife, Bouchra, insists the family are happy with life in London - suggesting the Arsenal captain will stay at the EmiratesRobin van Persie will be staying at Arsenal – if his wife and mother get their way.
It’s the news every Gunner fan wants to hear and there will be in-depth contract talks between the club and their 28-year-old star striker this summer.
But as far as Robin’s wife Bouchra is concerned, their family comes first.
She said: “We have been in *London for eight years now. As a family, we love it here.
“Robin is captain of Arsenal and, as many people claim, the leader of the Arsenal team.
“Arsenal believed in Robin when he was young and when he was considered as a bit of a rebel.
“We don’t want to upset things at home either. Our kids, Shaqueel and Dina, go to school here in London. And they are just as happy as we are.
“We still expect to sit down after this season is over and have a look at the future.
“We have to make some *decisions at some point. But it is not just about Robin. He also thinks about us, his children and me.
“I also love it that everyone at *Arsenal respects him. At the *training ground, at the stadium, his teammates, the fans.
“Everyone comes up to me all the time to tell me how happy they are with him.
“I also see that Robin is really kind to everyone at Arsenal in *return. As a skipper should be!
“A good captain should be *concerned about the club, about the team, about everything *involving Arsenal. Oh, and in the meantime, I have been promoted to ‘skip’s wife’.”
Even Van Persie’s mother, Jose, has joined the clamour for him to stay.
She said: “Arsenal is a *beautiful club. They have no debts and Robin is being worshipped there.
“I honestly feel that the fans and the people at the club really love him. That is worth so much, too.
“When we go to Arsenal and we walk into the stadium with him, it is electrifying.
“As a mum, that fills me with pride. It is really fantastic. When Robin’s granddad, my dad, was over at the Emirates for his (91st) birthday and we were taking pictures inside, I heard grown-up people behind me say: ‘We love Robin’. As a mum, I could not wish for a nicer thing.”
Van Persie, speaking to lifestyle Magazine ‘Heroes’ in Holland, *admits his mum is right.
“I have got to know everyone at the club. The kit man, the laundryman, everyone really. I know *everyone by name. I love all that.’’
Wife Bouchra added: “When it was his grandad’s birthday, Robin took the entire family to the
dressing room.
“His grandad went to sit in *Robin’s seat in the dressing room and walked through every room of the home team. He loved it.’’
Van Persie added: “My grandad also wanted to walk on the pitch. But as we all know, the grass is almost sacrosanct and nobody can walk on it after a game. Not even your family.
“But when our groundsman saw grandad standing on the *touchline, he said, ‘Robin, YOUR
grandad can step onto the pitch’. Well, you see, that’s Arsenal.”
Van Persie says he will let his family choose after his career is over if they want to live in England or head home to Holland.
He ended: “While I am playing, I realise that it will be mainly me who decides where we live.
“If my kids want to go back to *Holland, we will do. But that won’t be for another 10 years, I think.
“My kids speak better English than Dutch at this moment. They attend a real English school, not an international school.’’
MRS Van Persie :bow:
http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/footba...-persie-829563Quote:
Italian champions Juventus will make a staggering £70million move for Robin van Persie.
Juventus are prepared to pay Arsenal a £30m transfer fee and give Van Persie a four-year deal worth around £180,000-a-week.
The Mirror revealed earlier this week that Van Persie was not keen on a move to Italy, but Juve are refusing to give up and are the first foreign club to make a serious push to sign the Gunners' captain this summer.
Arsenal are determined to keep Van Persie - manager Arsene Wenger insisted this week they will not sell this summer, the Dutchman is under contract until summer 2013 and Wenger is "confident" the player will stay - but that has not deterred interest from Manchester City, Manchester United, Real Madrid and Barcelona.
Real seemed to be the most likely destination if Van Persie was to leave, but there are doubts the Spanish club have the spending power required.
While United are watching developments closely, neighbours City believe Van Persie favours a move abroad if he decides to leave Arsenal.
Juventus general director Giuseppe Marotta admitted his admiration for van Persie this week after hailing him a "great player."
Marotta confirmed Juve want a world class player and even though they were seen as outsiders - and still believe it will be hard to strike a deal - they are ready to break the bank to get their man.
Sadly i can't see him refusing all of those very attractive offers that will be thrown at him, especially considering that he's approaching that now or never time in his career as it relates to winning some form of silverware.
I think he has strong sentimental attachment to the club, but I couldn't blame him or even frown upon him were he to accept one of those mega offers. Only thing I do hope is that if he does decide to move, he at least has the decency to go abroad.
Last game in an Arsenal shirt today.
RVP. :bow:
What a player.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/18053598
That last bit sounds a bit. Erm. Dicey.
Dicey? Sounds like a goodbye. Two steps backwards and one step back. If he goes we'll still have that gash Chamakh I suppose, and Song can play there.Quote:
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And Diaby. :coffee:Quote:
Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn
The "No matter what happens, I will always love this club" thing seems to get people worried. He has said that a few times now. I don't know, I think his negotiating position would be strengthened if he gave nothing away - he seems to be doing just that.
From the club's perspective, I still think it's in our hands.
Wenger said this the other day:
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"People speak like our position is not important. Our position is very important. Anyway, Robin is not at the end of his contract".
I think it'll boil down to money. Fans go on about trophies and playing with other world class players...nah. It's money. And status. He's the king here and he won't get that anywhere else - he knows it. And if we chuck about £150k a week at him, I reckon there's no chance he is turning that down. But whether Gazidis and Wenger feel he is worth a 4 year contract at £150k a week is the crucial issue.
Basically - I'm more worried about how serious Arsenal are to keep him at the club as opposed to how much Robin wants to stay. Wenger's "29 is the worse age to give a big contract" talk earlier on in the season was scary.
Well that's just it. That's a £31m investment, not something to be taken lightly.Quote:
Originally Posted by Syn
In this day and age, 150k is probably standard for a player of RVP's importance and stature. If there's one player we should probably break our wage structure for, it's him. Our debt is on the slide now and it's about time we invested the cash profits in the team.
It's obscene money but this is football now. Lose RVP and we might as well give up.
It's not, and tbh I don't reckon he'll have another season like this. There's a fair chance he could pick up a long term injury or just remain off the boil as he has in the last month or so. But without getting all emo and alias about it, I don't think we could take Van Persie going. He's the captain of the club (a good captain) and his presence in the team is important. We have survived losing a load of talented players but Robin going would set us back. And everyone is getting a bit fucked off with it now. The years of basically every player spending 10-15 years at a club and having testimonials and shit are gone but we need a few of them now. No more rebuilding. We have a good spine at the club. There are good youngsters about. We've added a smart addition in Podolski. Lets see how far we can go.Quote:
Originally Posted by Grimandi's Perm
I know it's probably not that simple and it might not be the rational thing to do but I'd just hand him what he wants. We need to get rid of this selling club tag. As I say, the £31m investment might not be worth £31m in terms of Van Persie's contribution on the pitch, but there's a bigger picture here. We need to try to push on and improve.
He has something Cesc and Samir didn't have, two kids settled in good schools. He will stay or commute to Manchester every day.
Get rid of half the shit we have and don't even bother replacing them, give all the cash that raises to RvP. Job done. What difference would an empty place make where Chamakh or Diaby or Djourou or Almunia currently sit. That must easily be worth £150K (currently wasted) a week. We're always short of players anyway so we'd hardly notice. Just bring kids in when everyone is crocked like we usually do. Giving a free transfer to our asshole players would be worth it.
It's difficult finding clubs that are willin to take them off your hands. The transfer fee isn't the problem, but who's matching Chamakh's £60k odd a weekQuote:
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Wumger will :lol:Quote:
Originally Posted by Syn
Chakma must have some suitors in France. Can't blame him and the others for hanging around like a bad smell though - earn shit loads and sit on the bench every week. That's the life.
Then pay a flat fee for somebody to take them. It's fucking sinful, £60K would pay my coke habit for months whereas a useless shit like Chamakh earns that in a WEEK!Quote:
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Thanks for everything RVP
am i right in thinking that this season RVP has played in every game bar the odd cup game?
Lets be honest, if you were RVP what would you do?
Take a look around, see a club which has been in a constant state of "transition", if we can even call it that, a club which has failed to keep the majoirty of its best players, a club which a Manager who is looking more and more past it......regardless of his love why at the age of 28 would he stay?
At the same time he can go to a number of top clubs and challenger for real honours, play with worldclass talent, and get paid close to £200k per week.
Players like Messi stay at one club, but a)the club is one of the best at challenging and winning honours, and b)pay him a shit load of cash....
Take your heart out of the equation and i think the chance of RVP being an Arsenal player next season is 0.001%.