Summer Transfer Speculation and Shit.

The Dutch league isn't what it used to be but if we're going to compare league quality, you can say the same about the Premiership when Wenger was in his prime. Man Utd were the only team capable of winning the league and we never won back to back titles. Also, our record in Europe was really poor.

It would be interesting to see what Wenger could a achieve with a bigger club but there is a reason why he's never won back to back league titles on the CL. I think he'd have flown the Arsenal nest a long time ago or not have gone to Japan if thought he was capable of more.

Also, looking at the league history, PSV and Feynoord were bigger clubs and league winners back then as well. I remember those clubs being more than what they are now during the 90s and always in the CL. Ajax didn't have some Utd style dominance over the league from the looks of things.

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Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory

The Dutch league isn't what it used to be but if we're going to compare league quality, you can say the same about the Premiership when Wenger was in his prime. Man Utd were the only team capable of winning the league and we never won back to back titles. Also, our record in Europe was really poor.

It would be interesting to see what Wenger could a achieve with a bigger club but there is a reason why he's never won back to back league titles on the CL. I think he'd have flown the Arsenal nest a long time ago or not have gone to Japan if thought he was capable of more.

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I think it's more because he knows he wouldn't have the same carte Blanche at another club. I don't believe for a second that Wenger believes he is not good enough to achieve the things you mention, regardless of whether his ability matches his self belief.

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Originally Posted by Syn

They can have him. He's worse than Jesus Navas.

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Only Andros Townsend is worse than Navas.

They probably spit on Navas in Spain for being a one-noted speed-merchant headless chicken.

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Originally Posted by Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie

I think it's more because he knows he wouldn't have the same carte Blanche at another club. I don't believe for a second that Wenger believes he is not good enough to achieve the things you mention, regardless of whether his ability matches his self belief.

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I don't know. It's all speculation and I often wonder why Wenger always goes for the low key. But it's strange he chose to go to Japan after Monaco.

Speaking of Monaco and league quality. Why wasn't Wenger able to win back to back titles there and dominate? He was in France for a while and never won the title again after his debut and that was a nothing league compared to the Dutch.

Wenger is a good manager but he still has more to go. I think Van Gaal has done it all and really has nothing left to prove. Similar flaws to Wenger or not, he's done a lot more. But I'll be happy for him to fall flat on his face at Utd. Very happy!

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Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory

I don't know. It's all speculation and I often wonder why Wenger always goes for the low key. But it's strange he chose to go to Japan after Monaco.

Speaking of Monaco and league quality. Why wasn't Wenger able to win back to back titles there and dominate? He was in France for a while and never won the title again after his debut and that was a nothing league compared to the Dutch.

Wenger is a good manager but he still has more to go. I think Van Gaal has done it all and really has nothing left to prove. Similar flaws to Wenger or not, he's done a lot more. But I'll be happy for him to fall flat on his face at Utd. Very happy!

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Again you could argue that Wenger has used it as an excuse the same way he has used the spending powers of Chelsea and City as an excuse, but Marseille were involved heavily in match fixing for the period he was at Monaco and were stripped of at least one of their titles.

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Hmm I don't agree, I'd much rather Ospina leave...where as Szczesny is a dick head he is in my opinion (and that of Bob Wilson) a better keeper. I still think he had a future with us and having some of Cechs level to understudy to could have improved his level....where as Ospina isn't in bad form/bad attitude he's just not good enough. Massive, massive shame...hopefully Cech stays fit so won't have that Colombian clown in goal.

Telegraph say Chesney could move on loan, which would make more sense to me, as I also agree that he is better than Ospina.

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Again you could argue that Wenger has used it as an excuse the same way he has used the spending powers of Chelsea and City as an excuse, but Marseille were involved heavily in match fixing for the period he was at Monaco and were stripped of at least one of their titles.

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I remember him speaking on the match fixing. That could be genuine but it doesn't explain the lack of silverware in the domestic cup or Europe.

Anyway, I don't want to keep on beating Wenger's record down. The overall point is that he still has a lot to prove and should be really pushing for success now that we're in the position to.