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FA Cup winners in to the CL
So in the last decade or so, we'd have seen the likes of Millwall, Southampton, West Ham, Portsmouth in the CL if that was the case.
Fair enough only one of them won the Cup but the others all reached finals and got in to europe cos the teams that beat them were already in the CL.
Yeah cant see it working
Budweiser, the king of beers? You jest.Quote:
Originally Posted by Syn
Didn't say it would work, just that in today's game probably the only way to restore any sort of reputation (bar giving huge prize money) would be to give it a CL place.
Otherwise it will continue to be sidelined and downgraded.
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Originally Posted by Coney
Everyone knows it's Kronenberg.
Of course there are better but I am not able to purchase super quality.
If anything, CL places in the league should be decreased to reignite the FA cup again.
When you have managers saying 4th is a trophy (fair enough, only one has said that and what a dumbass he is) and they would prefer finishing top 4 than winning the cup, that devalues it.
Have 3rd/4th be in Europa League along with the Cup winners and trust me, most managers would rather woin the cup and be in the Europa League than through their league positions
The way Platini wants it the entire top half will qualify for the CL and the bottom half the Europa League.
Then the Cup Winners can qualify for some other trophy, I don't know, let's call it the Cup Winners' Cup.
I think it will work.
I don't think the winners of the FA Cup should get CL football because winning the FA Cup isn't a good signal of quality. If games were two-legged like the CL knockouts, then it would be a better measure of quality but obviously nobody will want to touch that.
I would be in favour of 1st+2nd in CL, 3rd+4th in UEFA. I think that's quite fair and the UEFA cup will get more interest.
The FA Cup is fine. Teams do try hard to win it - and every team would love to be in the final. Arsenal fans (including myself) had been rubbishing the Carling Cup for years..got to the final last year and everyone was excited. It's just one of those - if your team's in it, you give a shit.
I'm not necessarily advocating it but the FA have to do their bit in making it an event again.Quote:
Originally Posted by Syn
And it definitely doesn't have anything to do with being in the final and a few miles away from 4th place :ninja:
Despite not exactly having much of a soft spot for either side (it's 2007 all over again), I'm very much looking forward to this one. I don't foresee a 4-4, but there will at least be plenty of incident. Liverpool could just pinch it I reckon, possibly after extra-time.Chelsea will certainly be flagging a bit if it gets that far. Please though, not decided by pels this time. Sick of them for the time being!
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The issue with the presentation of the final is the main one I think. I remember as late as the early 90s, it was an event to turn on BBC1 at 12:10 and see Des (and Venners and Hill, but moving swiftly on) there in that box over Wembley running through the itinerary of everything they had lined up for the next three hours before the game. Apart from the Cup FInal, any live match broadcasts would only begin barely five minutes before kick-off, so the Cup was something different. You'd get stuff like 'Meet the players', 'Goals From the Rounds', Fantasy Football specials, Andy Gray pretending to play the piano (yes).You'd want to see them all, because as a TV viewer you didn't really get that attention anywhere else throughout the season.
That sort of thing is now redundant when:
it's all available at the click of the button, and everyone but the most casual of casuals knows who the players are these days anyway.
Even mid-ranking Prem games now have an hour of build-up with time for vignettes where Grant Holt buys a pint of milk.
So ESPN's coverage starting at 9am today is both grudgingly admirable and utterly ridiculous.