Summer Transfer Speculation and Shit.

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Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory

That's Suarez! Saurez, dude. It's not some bum player we're talking about.

Merts is a World Cup winner and we've had our most successful and stable period in defence for a long time under Merts. Kos was blundering all the time before Merts arrived. It's a good partnership and I think people are a little too obsessed with the sight of his slow movement. He reads the game very well and that's an important part of being a defender. I remember Kolo and Verms having pace but both were stupid defenders. They'd charge in before thinking and Kos has that same tendency.

Merts is the least of our worries. Tell your German colleague to eat a sausage. He doesn't know what he's talking about :lol:

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Unbelievable....I completely agree with you.

whadoyaknow! :lol: We were bound to agree on something.

I don't mind Mertesacker, he works very well with Kos. Emphasis on partnerships at CB is more important than individual performances. But if we're looking to take things up a notch, he would be a player that we could improve on. His lack of ability on the ball is a problem. The game has changed a lot in the last 10-15 years. Defenders need to be comfortable on the ball and attackers need to be put in a shift defensively. If CBs are able to get the ball directly to Ozil and other attackers, it really hurts the opposition. Noises from Wenger that Paulista's supposed to be a good ball-playing CB. He'll need to step up.

Has that ever changed? Wenger has always gone for that type of CB but we got ourselves into problems with guys like Kolo and Verm.

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Originally Posted by Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie

Your German work colleague?....because he has the same nationality as Mertesacker he's automatically an authority
But that's why you have a squad, Mertesacker not just for his height is our best player at defending set pieces....Koscielny is no midget and yet it's definitely the weakest part of his game.
Would you play Mertesacker against teams that are going to send surging strikers that could run rings round him? No but would you play him against the Stokes of this world yes

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No, because he's seen him play hundreds of times more for club & country than you have.
From memory, didn't fair too well with him against Stoke last year. I actually don't rate him in the air, never in the right place from set pieces & gets beaten in the air by smaller men, he can't jump

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Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory

Has that ever changed? Wenger has always gone for that type of CB but we got ourselves into problems with guys like Kolo and Verm.

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I think the best centre back partnership we've had in the 21st century was Kolo Toure and Campbell, both had different attributes. Campbell strong, aerially competitive....and wasn't afraid to be assertive vocally with those around him. Kolo Toure quick, good ball player might make mistakes but had the pace and timing to atone for his errors.

Unbeaten season central defensive partnership, nothing else to say.

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Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory

That's Suarez! Saurez, dude. It's not some bum player we're talking about.

Merts is a World Cup winner and we've had our most successful and stable period in defence for a long time under Merts. Kos was blundering all the time before Merts arrived. It's a good partnership and I think people are a little too obsessed with the sight of his slow movement. He reads the game very well and that's an important part of being a defender. I remember Kolo and Verms having pace but both were stupid defenders. They'd charge in before thinking and Kos has that same tendency.

Merts is the least of our worries. Tell your German colleague to eat a sausage. He doesn't know what he's talking about :lol:

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Maybe Suarez Dude! but he's not the fastest man on the planet. Possibly Barca & Madrid's slowest forward. These are the teams I hope you want us to start competing against. If you don't, Merts is fine but if you want to compete stop thinking we can do it with players that arent good enough to play for the teams we're competing against. Its the mistake Wenger has made for years & continues to do so.

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Originally Posted by Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie

I think the best centre back partnership we've had in the 21st century was Kolo Toure and Campbell, both had different attributes. Campbell strong, aerially competitive....and wasn't afraid to be assertive vocally with those around him. Kolo Toure quick, good ball player might make mistakes but had the pace and timing to atone for his errors.

Unbeaten season central defensive partnership, nothing else to say.

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Fuck me Herbie - just when I thought you couldn't sink any lower - Kolo - good ball player!!! - I need a lay down.

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Originally Posted by Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie

How many of those yellow cards were picked up as a result of the midfield in front of him not tracking back and covering. Doubtless there is an impetuous side to him which at twenty he has plenty of time to get out of his game, but again you make a giant leap to state that because of this this makes him only good enough to be a squad player for a mid table side.

I think there are plenty of midfielders who don't have the legs to run around the pitch making tackles, but it doesn't relegate them to being pub players. If your saying he shouldn't be playing as a DM absolutely no argument from me but to state that he's closer to playing for the Dog and Duck than maybe producing the odd bit of midfield passing quality to open up a tired defence in a game than I'm not buying it. Do we have plenty of players that can do that and apart from being captain he is surplus to requirements absolutely, but the chasm between that and pub player is a yawning one.

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Sorry Herbie, missed this one earlier. Now you want to blame the other midfielders for Arteta's inadequacies - aren't they the same players that have played infront of Coq?

Sorry meant Chambers!!