Cisc is a striker though.Quote:
Originally Posted by ollie the optimist
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Cisc is a striker though.Quote:
Originally Posted by ollie the optimist
Hmm new signing tonight? Perez must have got through as an outstanding talent. :bow:
its flamini :good:Quote:
Originally Posted by McNamara That Ghost...
Has he still got that wart thing on his nose?
The Arsenal Way™Quote:
Originally Posted by ollie the optimist
if we arent going to sign anyone of note, can we jsut go and resign Henry? you dont need any reason, because its Henry. he just makes everything better.
Henry :bow:
The King :bow:
I don't think Henry wants to join us, he's happy at Liverpool with his pal Suarez.
what's geoff saying?
whatever the Arsenal PR lot want him too....Quote:
Originally Posted by She Wore A Yellow Ribbon
We sign anyone yet?
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Originally Posted by GayPete
I give up, which one is arrayQuote:
Originally Posted by GayPete
Arsenal.com @Arsenal 23s
Wenger: "It's not a question of spending money, it's a question of buying the right players" #AFCvAVFC
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Unfortunately Wenget's idea of the right player is very different to ours.
Last time he said that we ended up with the likes of Park, Santos and Gervinho.
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Originally Posted by selassie
This is why we need a change in management. Unless we were to replace Ivan with Dein, I can’t imagine Wenger taking on advice from someone else unless he really respects their opinion. We don’t have enough young blood on the board with a brain for football. We need someone that knows the technical side as well as financial. It’s why Wenger holds so much power. Who there can challenge his valuation of a player or the quality? He’s totally misguided. From the valuation of players on the market all the way down to our own players and his estimation of their abilities. I think deals have been held up because he overestimates the quality of the current crop.
For example, I was reading his comments about the sale of Gervinho this morning. He was supposed to be a super quality signing yet he lost his confidence quickly and had to be sold. If you read Wenger’s comments, he says he suffered especially when playing at the Emirates. So is he blaming the fans for his poor form? Where is the accountability? Surely it’s his duty to manage that situation better and get him back to form and confident? He scouted Gervinho and snapped him up early in the window, which suggests he was an early target and a player Wenger was very keen on signing . It wasn’t a last minute decision, it was a calculated move. To sell him off so quickly after a blip in form suggests to me that Wenger has lost his touch. To suggest the hostile atmosphere at the Emirates is to blame is pretty arrogant. He completely misjudged Gervinho’s ability and mental strength and also needs to question his own judgement for buying him.
We’ve become a vanity project for Wenger. Something has to change quickly after this summer. We may have outgrown him. I feel we need to change manager and bring in someone that can reshape the vision for Arsenal like Wenger did when he first arrived. We could always try changing Board members and changing the backroom staff but I can’t imagine Wenger being open to others challenging his authority all the time. It ruffles his feathers so badly when others challenge him like that. We’ll see how this plays out this summer. But it’s at the point now where I’m worried we’re about to panic buy and blow a chunk of cash for rubbish players. I think Wenger is lost.
Wenger in "I blame the fans" shocker.
What's new, the guy has done it before, it's never his fault is it? He signs duff players under the premise that they are super super quality and when they fail because they weren't good enough in the 1st place (usually the cheap option rather than the right option), he points the finger at the fans.
The guy has no shame seriously, he should have more respect for the people who indirectly put money in his pocket and a lot of it at that and by in large stayed loyal to him (not everyone of course ;) ) for years when he's delivered f*ck all.
You'd think after 2011 we wouldn't make the same mistake again but here we are in an almost identical situation. Depleted squad, frustrated fans and sheer incompetence in the transfer market.
I expect another ramshackle group of players to come in over the next couple of weeks as we scrape around the bins.
I fully expect at least 4 to come in.
4 turd burglars, mind.
And then we ship them out the next summer. Rinse and repeat.Quote:
Originally Posted by Marc Overmars
Our club's a joke tbh.
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I think we'll buy several players but they'll be under 21's. If you look at our squad it's pretty shit but it's actually pretty experienced. I think Wenger will go for Project Youth MkII.
I still think we'll smash our transfer record tbh.
You're unlikely to find top quality players late on in the window for the simple fact that they have either usually moved or their clubs don't want to sell as they have no time to find a replacement.
So yeah we'll end up with the usual panic buying cr*p and Wenger will pretend he's wanted these players for years and that they are super super quality.
Gervinho lost it after the ACON final. That’s when his confidence took a hit. It got worse because Wenger decided to start playing him as a striker after an extended period on the bench after the competition. Gervinho hardly played during the second half of his debut season. The following season he’s playing as a striker and Wenger has already bought Podolski to replace him. He’s out of order to blame it on the Emirate crowd. I suppose getting benched, Podolski’s arrival and being played as a striker had nothing to do with it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Arse n Wonga
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Originally Posted by Arse n Wonga
I don't think he blamed the fans actually for gervinho but rather the player himself for not being able to handle it. The fans have been on Ramseys back yet he is still here because he fought through it. After listening to him again, I'm certain he isn't blaming the fans but actually gervinho for not coping and being weak.
I know he has a lot of faults, but lets not twist his words to add more faults to him and create more anger. That's not what we need
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Originally Posted by Munchies
So Gustavo has gone then, ffs
'Julio Cesar ✖Rooney ✖ Fellaini ✖ Jovetic ✖ Fabregas ✖ Higuain ✖ Bernard ✖ Suarez ✖ Gustavo ✖'
How else can you interpret ‘especially at the Emirates’? Why make such a comment? It’s not the first time he’s said something like this.Quote:
Originally Posted by ollie the optimist
Then he would have shipped out a lot more players blaming us the fans. In my mind and many others, though while there was pressure from the fans as such, it was the players fault for not being strong enough to deal with itQuote:
Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory
Last night , with all those stories of a big signing, fuck all was happening:
GeoffArsenal
For those asking there wasn't a medical at Arsenal last night.
New season is tomorrow :run:
It's not twisting his words, he says Gervinho lacked confidence at the Emirates (not in general), this is a thinly veiled dig at the support for sure otherwise he would have just said he lacked confidence and needed a new challenge.Quote:
Originally Posted by ollie the optimist
Like who, most of the others didn't play so he could hardly blame the fans for those? He's got previous with this with the Adebayor transfer, it's nothing new here.Quote:
Originally Posted by ollie the optimist
He probably doesn't like the reaction of some of the fans to the fact he's not delivering and so wants to have a little subtle dig...nothing too obvious mind.
It always seems to be someone else's fault, transfers, performances, players underperforming, he shifts the blame away from himself and his precious players.
Still think Wenger is doing the right thing by getting in quality over just quantity as we did before which didnt pay off.
Im confident he will bring in the right type of player to improve the team before the end of August.
It’s not as if Wenger hasn’t said similar things in the past. The Emirates is hostile, there is no denying it, but Wenger needs to stop deflecting the attention away. He could have said many other things without mentioning the Emirates. Stuff like that doesn’t help. Ramsey came back to form because he kept on getting games despite having continuous poor performances.Quote:
Originally Posted by ollie the optimist
He's not getting quality over quantity, he's getting neither. As we've seen in the past his idea of quality is not exactly what other people's idea of quality is...these end of window bargain bucket buys aren't going to help us at all in any way other than numbers and I certainly don't trust him to bring in the right players, he's got it wrong too often.Quote:
Originally Posted by tjmill
We get lumbered with his "quality" players for years most of the time as noone wants them when we eventually realise they're not up to scratch.
Who the fuck thought paying Bendntner 52k to match his shirt number was clever ?
At the end of the day, I'm not buying into the excuse that Wenger had no money to spend over the last near decade. He did. He wasted it on shit players, obscene amounts on wages, and not strengthening the team each season and allowing it to get in such a state where so much investment is now needed. Wenger out.
Good players can move at the end of the window, RVP, Robinho, Berbatov, Arteta, Nasri, etc.
I still think he'll get the players in we need, those who have gone won't really be missed.
Pretty much, all of those who have gone, we have been crying out for them to leave (Bendtner is a parasite though, he just won't go).Quote:
Originally Posted by Keith
The problem is, we're severely lacking in squad depth, and in such instances, I'd rather those that we've shipped out remain with us, I'd rather field Gervinho than a reserve player from the bench. Wenger likes comparing our transfer dealings to Chelski / United, but they have a squad which is much stronger.