in a bar in munich :haha:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nN28j_d7OFc
spurs getting mocked everywhere. love it.
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in a bar in munich :haha:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nN28j_d7OFc
spurs getting mocked everywhere. love it.
Chelsea win it, spend close to 100 million go out at group stages, unit go out at group stages last year, first knockout stage this year, and they were beaten by a good team yes but still hardly a great two years, city fail both times, we fail too. It's not that hard to see why English football in Europe can be seen as declining as a whole rather then just arsenal
They won it though and the English clubs have just had a bad year, Man U faced the best side in the competition (but gave it a good go) so you can see why they went out, Man City just didn't perform how they can....they are much better than they showed, just look at the quality of their squad.
We're the weakest of the lot (this is despite Benitez being in charge at Chelsea, he's sh*t) and we're the ones in decline here and have been for a number of years and yet never a mention about us other than some utter sh*t about quality and spirit.
I personally hope English football is in decline because then we'll lose 4th place as a CL qualifying spot and that would be great, the teams doing well in the Europa league won't be helping though.
The tie was lost in the first leg but havent we been here before?. last year same story, the man Wenger and his legion of followers make the same mistakes every year and fail to see the errors of their ways. Last year it was Milan, this year bayern, next year it will be PSG or Porto or Juve. It makes no difference. If a man is shit as his job you should relieve him of it. The errors go back to the group stage. If you top your group you invariably get a better (weaker) opposnent. Though with us with Wenger at the hel I cannot think of a team that I would have bet on us beating over the 2 legs. Wenger simply doesnt have it in him to plot a way to success. He just goes through the same routine in training and sends the boys out with the same instructions. " Just play your game chaps, the goals will come". Failure to plan is planning to fail. If wenger is here next season we will be having this exact same conversation tis time 2014.
If Wenger could not crack the CL with his squad of 1998-2004. He never will. IMHO HE was the weak link in those squads, they succeeded inspite of his cluelesness. Mourinho or Fergie would have won at least 2 CL with those teams and more than 3 EPL trophies.
Course it is and it was bound to happen because no league can sustain being near the top of the tree forever. Last year only one team made it into the quarter finals and although Chelsea went onto win it, the horrible style in which they achieved it was a rare, rare achievement, so no real indication that English football was still on the up. The lack of other teams was far more of an indication of the way things were heading and confirmed this season. All of this is compounded by the severe drop in quality we have seen week on week in the Premier, so it is no surprise English teams are struggling to compete in the top tier European competition.Quote:
Originally Posted by ollie the optimist
Of course Wenger was partly defecting, that is what he and every other manger will attempt to do in the face of a defeat but the general point stands – the Premier is gash and for all the posturing of being ‘The Best League in the World!!’, it really, really isn’t.
English football isn't where it was 4-5 years ago when it dominated however European teams have got better IMO, 4-5 years ago there didn't seem to be a huge amount of quality, this season there seems to be a lot more quality teams around.
I don't think there's anything to worry about anyway, they'll be back next season for sure.
German teams have rebuilt from within their own country, and it is a model the FA should have followed. But they were too concerned about John Terry, Ashley Cole and Wayne fucking Rooney.
When the Germans slid down the ranks of world football in 2000, they went home and did something about it. Hence you see the Gomez's, the Schwinestigers (sp), Ozil's etc etc etc.
Then the teams within the top tier built on that and added depth to their squads with talent from abroad. Talent which the EPL didn't want to gamble on.
As far as the Prem goes. Utd will always be there or there abouts. If City get a decent manager, they'll challenge, and Chelsea, Spuds etc will probably do well too.
Whilst Wenger is right that the English league needs to be careful, I think some of it was to cover his own failings this year in not building a better squad of players.
There is no evidence at all to indicate that, in fact, it all points to a decline in standard for a while. Just saying 'we'll be back next season' doesn't make it so. Europe has got better and the standard in our league has dropped. You have to look at the bigger picture of how the teams have stopped qualifying for latter stages of the CL and the standard in the Prem - they go hand in hand. Forget 4-5 years, its not even where it was 3 years ago.Quote:
Originally Posted by Arse n Wonga
Man City are a top side, so are Man U both will challenge...Man U did pretty well this season against the best side in the competition. I think you'll see that next season they will progress further that's unless they get drawn against the best sides in which case it's a bit of a lottery.Quote:
Originally Posted by Terry Tuffnutz
The German teams have improved a lot and Barca and Real are certainly better than ever in terms of quality, then you have Juve who seem to be leading an Italian recovery and PSG who have the spending power to bring in top quality, that's a much stronger line-up than 4-5 years ago when there were maybe two other teams other than the English teams who could challenge.
Now sure we've had better English teams however the current best sides in England can and will compete, it's the likes of us who should worry because we're being left behind, devoid of quality, devoid of that hunger to succeed we're going to struggle unless we start bringing in world class players.
The cream of the English sides will always be up there, they have the financial muscle and the quality of players to compete.
We've won 13 out of 28 league games and we're 5th, not a million miles away from 3rd, especially if we win our game in hand.
I think that tells you everything you need to know about the quality of the PL this year.