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The bottom line for me is that we are a club who should be winning titles and the occasional CL, even Porto can boast of a few. That is where we are supposed to be as a club and where we claim we want to be. Winning runs w/o trophies are meaningless. We are not the Spuds, we need to challenge consistently. Wenger has stolen nobodys Teddy bear as far as I can tell, so no we don't hate him. Just wish he would do the needful, much of which seems pretty obvious to most of us.
Because I'm talking about the extended run of 17 wins out of 20. 8 wins in a row, while impressive, would be less so after an indifferent run. But I do agree this run has to lead somewhere, and the somewhere should be a trophy. I'm more bothered about the Cup than beating Chelsea. Both would be nice but Mourinho will come and park the bus, I do see te psychological value in Wenger finally beating a Mourinho side but retaining the Cup would give us more momentum going into next season.Quote:
Originally Posted by fakeyank
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I do see te psychological value in Wenger finally beating a Mourinho side but retaining the Cup would give us more momentum going into next season.
The FA Cup is a fun day out but meaningless in terms of measuring a club's overall performance levels. That's the whole point of the cup, one-off games, giant killers, teams and players playing above themselves. You can't judge anything by it and it's not worth anything compared to the big prizes.
Screw the psychological value of beating Maureen's drone army, the psychology should be in the bag already or Wenger isn't doing his job. We need to catch them and overtake them to win the title and that's the only thing we should be focused on. Everyone gets paid a fortune to win so let's go and do that. The chavs will be doing the same. If we come off that pitch and we've stood toe to to with them and given them a proper game then fair enough. Any thing less is a disgrace. It's the biggest match of the season and the cup pales into total insignificance by comparison. Then the match after the chav game will be the biggest game of the season, all the way through to the line. If we take maximum points from all of them we'll win the league. If we drop a single point anywhere we'll be losers again.
Everyone deserves a degree of credit for putting together a good run at the business end of the season. But not too much credit because that's what we should be doing anyway. The real credit comes if we make a fist of challenging for this title. That's when we'll know things have changed.
Well said, and the title is all that matters.....anything less is no success, and the FA Cup is not a major trophy.Quote:
Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn
:lol: that is a pretty good point. I'm still not sure how we managed to be so awful at the start of this season, but I'd still rather go into next season having had 2 pretty decent seasons in a row which, if we retain the cup, this will have been. If we finish 2nd better still but I'd rather have a trophy. I don't agree the FA Cup is meaningless. It is still a major trophy. It has been devalued by the Champions League but the final still has a huge global audience and it's still taken seriously by the big clubs. I'd liked us to have beaten Birmingham in the league cup final but had we done so it wouldn't have felt the same as last season's FA Cup.Quote:
Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn
We certainly need to try to catch Chelsea but IMO the last glimmer of hope there was their jammy late goal vs RPQ. They now only need 4 wins from 7 games and while they do have a tough run in they do have 4 games against cannon fodder. We already have made a fist of challenging by putting together a run which has made the chavs look over their shoulder. We need to keep that going but the title is in their hands, not ours.
Fuck it! I'm pissed!
Wenger IN!!
At least he's one of us!
Look at the rest of the world of football! It's like the election!
Knowing our luck we'll end up with fucking Ed Middlebrand.
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Fuck it! I'm pissed!
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Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn
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Originally Posted by LDG
Drunk LDG :bow:
Throw the bank at Atletico Madrid and get Diego Simeone
One can but dream