Who Will Win The League - 2

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Globalgunner

Wengers statement that , "If he wasnt doing a good job, someone at the club would have told him so" is a disingenuous as they come ans smacks of the arrogance of a man who knows he has the club and fans over a barrel. I doubt that Ivan even has any authority over him and those yokels masquerading as the "board" even less. It shows how disfunctional this club has become since Dein left. We can really put all our troubles down to the boardroom ego war that precipitated DD leaving and selling his shares.

It may take a while to put this club back on to a sporting rather than purely financial emphasis.

---

Yup - and I agree Wenger's comment is disingenuous as it ignores the fact that he has built a personal fiefdom where there IS noone at the club who will even dare to question what he does.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Globalgunner

Wengers statement that , "If he wasnt doing a good job, someone at the club would have told him so" is a disingenuous as they come ans smacks of the arrogance of a man who knows he has the club and fans over a barrel. I doubt that Ivan even has any authority over him and those yokels masquerading as the "board" even less. It shows how disfunctional this club has become since Dein left. We can really put all our troubles down to the boardroom ego war that precipitated DD leaving and selling his shares.

It may take a while to put this club back on to a sporting rather than purely financial emphasis.

---

Wenger is a dictator, he has complete control and is pretty much beyond reproach. He won't change because he can't and doesn't think he's doing anything wrong given his reaction over the past few weeks in his press conferences.

It's really sad how this is all unfolding and IMO he is well on the way to undoing all the great work he has done at the club.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Letters

I think this is a good time for a recount.
It's so hard to call this year.

Leicester - well, improbably they're still there and they've got the best run-in, I think. But do they have the legs for it and will they cope with the pressure of suddenly almost being favourites? And what has last Sunday done to them psychologically?

Spurs - No, just...no. :sulk:. They don't have a great run in but they are the form team right now. Being in the cup competitions could harm them though as they don't have that great a squad. They've got a chance but I still reckon they'll have a nosebleed at some point.

Arsenal - Well, in theory I think we've got the best squad (better than Leicester and Spurs, certainly) and we've got players who have been there and done it at the business end of the season. We're getting our best players back from injury now - Sanchez, Ozil...Welbeck :d. But you can never really trust us and we have some tough away games. If last Sunday doesn't push us on then nothing will.

City - Should be favourites but they're a squad of mercenaries and Pep in the summer may put them into holiday mode till he arrives. They've got the ability but maybe not the mentality for this season.


Sod it, I'm going to say us. Very hard to call though.

---

Got my Leicester shirt on tonight!! Two horse race, come on you Foxes!!

maybe we should have a new poll to see if the remaining 8 optimists have changed their minds.

We'll be changing this thread title to will we finish in the top 4 after our loss at Everton on Saturday.

Wenger's latest wisdom:

Quote:

---

'I built the club, and the way I did it was with hard work,' said Wenger. 'I had no external resources. If you compare the club when I arrived and how it is today it has moved forward, and without any help from anybody.'

---

Good to know. Adams, Bergkamp, Henry, Dein, the tea lady, fucking useless the lot of them. Arsene had to do it all himself.

As you keep saying, Wenger is the one constant.
It's time for him to move on and of course he didn't do it all by himself but we are where we are today (which is in nowhere near as bad shape as some make out) largely because of Wenger.

And I always though Woy was cut from the same cloth as Arsene. Here's his take on the unwashed fans.

Quote:

---

‘I don’t want to become too philosophical, but it does bother me that every pub philosopher is [now] a world wide philosopher as he has two important medium in front of him,’ the England manager said at the LMA president’s dinner on Monday night.

‘[They were] going down the pub and bothering a few people around them. Now he goes on Twitter, on social media, on phone-ins and suddenly his thoughts get taken up by more important elements of the mass media.’

---

I have to agree. It's one thing for the fans to stump up their £60, but something entirely different if when assume they have a right to comment. Everyone knows football is too complicated for fans to understand. At Arsenal they see the club 11 points behind Leicester City and their pub mentality will simplify things down to basic notions like the manager or the team is not good enough. They'll say things like, we have less points than Leicester therefore Leicester are doing better than us. It must be nice to live in such a simple world.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Letters

As you keep saying, Wenger is the one constant.
It's time for him to move on and of course he didn't do it all by himself but we are where we are today (which is in nowhere near as bad shape as some make out) largely because of Wenger.

---

Depends on how you look at things. Are we getting relegated like Villa? Far from it. Are we owned by an absolute cunt who has no intention of taking this club forward to do what it is supposed to do, compete for titles? Absolutely. Everything is relative and I;d say we are relatively fucked for the foreseeable future.

IMO a top striker and we'd have walked the league this season. I don't think we're in that bad shape.