Palace vs Arsenal - August 21st KO: 20:00

There are some exceptional players in the PL, but there are a lot of cloggers too. But I guess if even mediocre players can get paid £100k a week these days there's no real reason to push themselves.

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Originally Posted by Letters

There are some exceptional players in the PL, but there are a lot of cloggers too. But I guess if even mediocre players can get paid £100k a week these days there's no real reason to push themselves.

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Not just talking about the premier league, talking about football in general. Top strikers are at a premium, as are good dribblers, and don’t even get me started on crossing the ball.

A mate of mine was being scathing about the crossing in the women's world cup.
I didn't say anything but I did think to myself "Have you see how bloody bad it is in the men's game?!".
I do find it lamentable how bad some of these basic skills are at the top level.

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Originally Posted by Letters

A mate of mine was being scathing about the crossing in the women's world cup.
I didn't say anything but I did think to myself "Have you see how bloody bad it is in the men's game?!".
I do find it lamentable how bad some of these basic skills are at the top level.

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There's a huge amount of double standards applied by some people to the women's game, every time a woman makes a big mistake it's held up as a supposed example of the general standard, whereas with men it's regarded as the exception

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Originally Posted by Mac76

There's a huge amount of double standards applied by some people to the women's game, every time a woman makes a big mistake it's held up as a supposed example of the general standard, whereas with men it's regarded as the exception

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Apart from being slightly slower, less aggressive and a bit less technical finesse I can’t say I’ve noticed loads of difference. The crowd don’t seem quite as engaged as they are with the men’s game but that’s because at this stage in it’s development women’s football is more of a hobby for spectators where as with mens it’s a religion. The differences are more down to what you’d expect in the physical differences of men and women, I’ve no doubt most current women’s players are far in advance of the women’s game twenty years ago

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Originally Posted by HCZ_Reborn

I’ve no doubt most current women’s players are far in advance of the women’s game twenty years ago

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I mean, yeah :lol:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iy4U6mjt90A

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Originally Posted by HCZ_Reborn

The crowd don’t seem quite as engaged as they are with the men’s game but that’s because at this stage in it’s development women’s football is more of a hobby for spectators where as with mens it’s a religion.

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Also, you say that, but this is the kind of stuff you'd expect to see at Partizan Belgrade :lol:

https://youtu.be/bzDb6ZLGPbA?t=22

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Originally Posted by Mac76

There's a huge amount of double standards applied by some people to the women's game, every time a woman makes a big mistake it's held up as a supposed example of the general standard, whereas with men it's regarded as the exception

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Not just their game but women in football, specifically commentators and pundits. Every time they make a stupid fuckin point, and they make a lot, it's held up as some proof of affirmative action...completely neglecting the fact that legitimate mongoloids like Micah Richards and Jamie Redknapp...in fact nearly all are guilty of it...say ridiculous shit constantly.

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Originally Posted by mandela8

Not just their game but women in football, specifically commentators and pundits. Every time they make a stupid fuckin point, and they make a lot, it's held up as some proof of affirmative action...completely neglecting the fact that legitimate mongoloids like Micah Richards and Jamie Redknapp...in fact nearly all are guilty of it...say ridiculous shit constantly.

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yes pundits as we know can be preety bad, men or women - during the Women's World Cup final, the BBC commentary team were both women - the so-called expert analyst (some former player or other) was desperately trying to create a narrative that Spain were time-wasting by going down too much and too long under England tackles - but the commentator kept pointing out (with the help of the replays) that the tackles were actually quite fierce and therefore the Spain players were justified :lol:

Can policy not change over time?

I mean, when Arteta came in, the first thing he did was put some basic shape in the side such that we were a bit more difficult to play against.

We then started addressing the issue of removing shite from the books. And also removed pure talent, because talent is not good enough on its own without a team ethos, and a willingness to learn and put in the graft.

Massive calls is fucking off Ozil, Auba, Guendosi(sp)/the second coming according to some.

Then we blooded a team for a year. White, Gabriel, Saka, ESR etc etc….in the first season we fell short of CL…the means to and reason for a deeper squad, and heavy spending.

Look, if we fuck the whole thing up this year, Arteta is naturally on his way out. I don’t believe for one second that they will back him further if we fall back into the Europa and mid-table bullshit.

But by giving a manager time, by taking a more rational, less aggressive stance, we’re in a far better position than the clubs who have a revolving door as a manager recruitment process.

Just wait. Be patient. Every year so far has been (in the grand scheme), better than the last. And I at least feel like we have the groundwork for rebuilding what was a shell of a club when Wenger left.

Just have go on the stadium tour again. Love it….everything is about the club’s history and the lessons we have learned. It’s class. “Remember who you are, what you are and what you represent”. That is everything for me. After that, you have talent, or not….and thats for the club to decide, otherwise, I’m behind em