No chance on Zlatan.
Printable View
No chance on Zlatan.
I've got more chance of banging Kate Upton tonight than Liverpool have of signing a Lacazette or a Morata tbh.Quote:
Originally Posted by Syn
They don't have CL football to offer, their manager isn't really respected in world football and their brand stock isn't high. The Lyon CEO pretty much ridiculed Liverpool for the tentative rumours there were linking Lacazette to Liverpool.
Quote:
"The latest rumours are trash," the Lyon president wrote on Twitter.
"Liverpool have never called Lyon about Lacazette and without playing in the Champions League they have neither the money nor [would they be] able to interest him."
As for Ings ...... meh. I suppose as a free signing (minus tribunal payment) there's little risk involved however he's not the type of signing that will elevate them to the top four. Despite the rumours, I'd more expected a mid table club (Swansea, Stoke etc) to get him rather than a 5/6th one. Mind you, if they get Sturridge fit for most of next season he'd be a decent backup however if it's going to be a similar season to this one, I really do worry for them if they have to rely on Balotelli/Borini or Ings to lead the line for the majority of their games.
FSG seem like such tight bastards.
I think it's harsh (plain wrong) to say FSG are tight bastards. We've spent an absolute fortune. The problem is we've spunked most of it up the wall and on the curtains.
Oh Zlatan, would Wenger even consider 11 million regardless of the wages for a 33 year old a good deal?
Zlatan is one of those specially endowed players who could play into their late 30s easily but does he have the mentality of say a Bergkamp and sacrifice self for the team. He has a bigger ego, if that is possible than Chrissy Ronaldo, but somehow manages to be more enigmatic and personable. My biggest fear is that Arsene would not be able to manage him
If we were to get Cech, where does that leave us with the other keepers. I can't see Ospina leaving as only had one season but Chez has had a lot of time invested in him and IMO still remains the better longer term prospect. But no way we'd have all 3 of them.
Why would you spunk most of your money on curtains? That's just ridiculous.Quote:
Originally Posted by Coutinho Is Boss, I guess
Zlatan is a league title machine. Do it.
Not for us he isn't - he's a lazy player that only thinks of himself. doesn't have the legs to make the runs we need from a striker playing the way we do. He'd be alright in the games where we're dominating & yes he's a better finisher than either Giroud or Welbeck but in the games agianst the better teams he'll go missing - he has nothing to prove at 33 years of age & no real hunger. We need an Aguero/Suarez type of forward to make the runs in behind of tight defences & also do there bit in closing down.Quote:
Originally Posted by McNamara That Ghost...
Most on here would agree that the main positions that need strengthening are GK, CB (for an ever slower Merts), DM & Striker. This isn't far of the complete spine of the team. This is far more than the likes of Chelsea or City have to address, they will just add a couple of Worldy players that actually won't strengthen their starting line ups too much. This being the case, why is it we never seem to do any business early - does anyone know if Wenger has a policy of not doing any deals until pre-season has started.
That is definitely a question that would be worth addressing if it were true.
Alexis was signed during the World Cup so I reckon it's not true at a pinch.
We all know that the next update we'll get on Wenger, is him in shorts or trunks, doing something creepy.
You could be looking at libel charges if you'd put this on Twitter :lol:Quote:
Originally Posted by LDG
#ChildCatcher
https://s.yimg.com/bt/api/res/1.2/L8...ger-trunks.jpgQuote:
Originally Posted by Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie
Nothing libellous about the truth!
Do we think it would have happened that way if it hadn't been world cup year & Wenger wasn't there working for French TV.Quote:
Originally Posted by McNamara That Ghost...
Thats not Wenger - its Mr Bean.Quote:
Originally Posted by LDG
No chance we would have signed Sanchez during the world cup if it wasn't a world cup year.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dein-machine
:lol:
The mental gymnastics people do to avoid giving credit to that £8m a year thieving blind pedofrog.
Read the full sentence fuckwitQuote:
Originally Posted by Douglas Reynholm
No chance we would have signed Sanchez during the world cup if it wasn't a world cup year and Wenger wasn't there working for French TV.
Happy now, you colossal jizz pong champion?
Granted I'm not as clued up on Liverpool's finances as others but wasn't most of the outlay you spent last summer all offset from the Suarez mega deal? In terms of net spend I don't think FSG have really ever opened up the cheque book ever since the disasters of lol Carroll and lol Downing.Quote:
Originally Posted by Coutinho Is Boss, I guess
FSG seems to have boosted your revenues through signing a raft of sponsorship deals with a lot of Boston based companies which have involved your team doing a lot of shithouse ad's for Nivea and Subway (great way to attract opposing fans innit), however it doesn't seem to have corresponded in a net increase in overall spending.
It reminds me a lot of our situation prior the last two years where we had to make a transfer profit every year on player incomings and departures, though unlike us where there was a reason for plight (stadium) and a clear end game strategy to it, I'm not sure there is one for you guys other than to make the club financially stable. Basically a less cancerous version of the Ashley model at Newcastle.
Thing is that I kind of think you were lured by Ings and Milner more because they were free signings rather than because of the quality of them (would you have bought them if there was a fee?) which isn't a wise way to operate if you want to be a top four club imo.
I dunno, if I was a Liverpool fan I would be growing increasingly annoyed with FSG though coming of the back of the disasters that was Hicks and Gillet, I suppose they'll always be regarded as saints by some and probably afforded a lot more leeway than other owners.
Khedira has signed for Juventus.
Looks like ET when he got sickQuote:
Originally Posted by LDG
Compare him to Steve Bruce. Wenger is Adonis by that yardstick.
The guy is 65 years old. More than twice my age and he's in better shape than I am now.
Just listening to the Tuesday Club podcast. Alan Davis ripping Liverpool for the way they've hung Sterling out to dry. Ex Liverpool players ripping him in public....nasty club. He's still a kid that needs to protecting is his argument. He'd have him here if it weren't for the price tag.
It's true, usually I side with the clubs on these situations but Sterling's not doing anything wrong. If he signed a contract and wanted to leave then tough luck. But he doesn't want to sign a new contract and that's his choice. Liverpool are shitting themselves because they're going to lose out on about £30m and he might leave to a rival. After the way they cheated Suarez out of the Arsenal move, why would any player trust them? Look forward to your Danny Ings and Hendersons, no world class talent is joining you any time soon.
I agree. You can't force a player to sign a new deal and I hate when clubs do the whole smear campaign thing. It's nasty. If a player signed a new deal and tried to engineer a move away, that's different but in this case a player just doesn't want to sign. I agree with you.
What about the players who infamously left us?
When has Wenger or the club tried to blame players for wanting to leave? Classy as always, the club have allowed them to leave with as little fuss as possible. A little too classy if you ask me.Quote:
Originally Posted by Marc Overmars
Same applies in my book. If we have a player on our hands that doesn't want to sign a new deal, it's up to the club to convince him to stay or let him go.
I've said the same concerning Theo and even RVP.
Agreed. I didn't blame van persie for wanting to leave - even to man utd. I was a bit bitter that we didn't keep him for the extra year though. But that was Arsenal's fault. Potentially title we missed out on - he was by far the best player in the league at that point.Quote:
Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory
Anyway there are two different things here. The fans, and those who are more closely associated with the club. As a club, ex-players etc. have tried to portray Sterling as a disloyal little shit. Wenger and the Arsenal have never had a bad word to say about our players (even after they've left). The club can't control what fans sing though and even then Wenger usually calls for respect to be shown.
That said, if I was sterling I would stay at Liverpool. Not sure what the hurry to move is. He's only 20 and is progressing well at Liverpool.
That's right, there are two relationships. With the club and with the fans. Club vs player is business. On the other hand fans vs player is... business. It should have some sort of consideration for the fans but it doesn't. Football isn't like that any more. Which is a very bad thing. Only a few clubs can realistically challenge for the the title, only a few can win the CL. These clubs are buying up all the talent. Of course they are, it makes sense for them. But don't expect any serious competition in the league if this is accepted without complaint. The current arrangement is great for the player, great for the agent, usually okay for the club as they tend to win either way unless they fuck things up. Terrible for the fans, devoid of any sort of payback for their loyalty and personal investment. Players are signing deals with no intention of staying, or letting deals run down so they get maximum financial benefit from a freebie move - we're talking one wheelbarrow of cash in comparison to a larger wheelbarrow of cash, pure greed. And it's the norm. The reality of it can be understood, but there's no point asking fans to accept it without complaint. The reaction of the fans is probably the last barrier between players setting up their own fucking auctions in public. I think it's healthy for the game when the fans give the players a seriously hard time. It preserves that 1% of the old game we are still clinging to. No harm in that.
Basically, speaking as a fan Sterling is a huge cunt as far as I'm concerned.
I wouldn't go as far as Alan Davis and say I feel any sympathy for Sterling (well apart from his murdered father part - didn't know about that). He's a PL footballer, getting paid handsomely already and probably in line to receive another bumper contract soon once he leaves Liverpool.
However I do certainly agree with how awful Liverpool have handled things. The really stupid thing is why they didn't attempt to lock down Sterling to another contract the previous year when he really broke through. Liverpool were close to winning the title, he was playing with top players, the atmosphere was favourable and in his own words, he would have signed without question then.
We've made the odd flub in the past but we always now lock talented young players down when they emerge. Bellerin and Coquelin just got new deals and the likes of The Ox and Ramsey got new ones last year. It's how you make them feel valuable to the club and ensure that you do get top dollar if they were inclined to leave.
Got a feeling it links to my previous point about FSG being tight gits and wanting to keep Sterling on low (relative) wages for another year instead of giving him the wages he really should have deserved for as Rodgers put it, "the best young player in Europe". And now the silly thing is they probably will end up losing a lot more when he leaves on a free than from the saving in wages.
L'Equipe are reporting that PSG have pulled out of the Cech deal as he's close to signing for us (Arsenal).
Is Sterling that good? From his performances this season I wouldn't rate him as top quality. Still very raw, highly likely to make the wrong decision when he's on the ball. He had a good season in the company of Suarez and Sturridge, but he hasn't taken the lead with those two gone. Maybe that's why he's so keen to move? Does he know himself that the hype far outstrips his talent?
Do we know Liverpool didn't try and lock him down? Maybe they did. He has that horrendous agent in tow. He's evidently infected the player with all sorts of ideas to the extent Sterling seems much more focused on where he plays and the cash he'll get rather than putting in performances on the pitch. He's been shit for England too. Is that it for him, one season and then everything blown? Can he come back from this and get down to playing football?
I'd say he's a huge risk for anyone that signs him unless they are the chavs or the gypos where it's common to have super expensive players sitting it out on the bench.
Diaby released.