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Thanks you guys.....Im trying to keep the curse words to A bare minimalQuote:
Originally Posted by Japan Shaking All Over
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Originally Posted by Terry Tuffnutz
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Originally Posted by Terry Tuffnutz
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Originally Posted by Terry Tuffnutz
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Originally Posted by Terry Tuffnutz
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It would be good to see something like this when Barcelona visit the Emirates for their annual CL visit.Quote:
Originally Posted by Terry Tuffnutz
http://www.dailystar.co.uk/football/...enal-chairman/Quote:
BARCELONA NOT THAT KEEN ON FABREGAS SAYS ARSENAL CHAIRMAN
ARSENAL chairman Peter Hill-Wood last night warned Cesc Fabregas: I’m not sure Barcelona are too bothered about signing you.
Fabregas is keen on joining his boyhood idols this summer and wants the Gunners to do business as soon as possible.
But Hill-Wood has told the midfielder he should not get too carried away with dreams of a Nou Camp move because Barca are not breaking his door down to agree a deal.
He said: “I am not sure how keen they are. There are still stories in the (Spanish) press, but they don’t talk to us.
“They’ve made one offer, which works out at around £26m, but that was ages ago.
“But at the moment our situation is very straight-forward: we don’t want to lose him.
“Obviously if they come up with an offer which was a very good offer we would have to think about it.
“We have told them a number of times that what they are proposing is unacceptable and yet they haven’t moved on it.
“I don’t approve of what they are doing, but unfortunately it seems the way of the world right now.”
Hill-Wood confirmed Arsenal want the saga ended one way or another by the end of the month.
If Fabregas was to go – with the Gunners understood to be willing to accept £40m – boss Arsene Wenger would need time to make a new signing.
He said: “It has become a real bore and an unnecessary interruption to what we are trying to achieve.”
Hill-Wood said he was also unimpressed with super-rich Manchester City’s attempts to lure Samir Nasri, who Wenger is expected to play in Fabregas’ central midfielder role if his skipper leaves.
They have offered £20m and tried to tempt the 24-year-old with a contract worth £160,000 a week.
But Hill-Wood insisted the Gunners were resolved to keeping Nasri while he sees out his contract.
“City seem to have more money than anybody else, and they keep splashing it around all over the place,” added Hill-Wood.
“But our position is very straightforward: we don’t want the player to leave.”
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Old man showing how its done.. Cesc really should question what Barca are doing. Yes, thats the best club in the world, they play the best football but do they need him? Cesc is their trophy which they want back. Cesc should evaluate himself and see if he is worth 26 million quid when the likes of Carroll, Torres, Neymar, Sanchez are going for double his price. Its a shame really..Quote:
Originally Posted by Master Splinter
SSN breaking newsGuardiola says Arsenal have agreed to negotiate the sale of the Cunt to Barca.Looks like the most boring transfer saga of all time is coming to an end. Unfortunately they say negotiating but we are more likely to sell for what Barca want rather than what we want.No dount Wenger is loosening his trousers as I type this getting ready to bend over for Barca once again
It's true that Barca are not overly keen on Cesc. If they get him, they'll be pleased, but if they miss out they won't be that bothered. It's clear from their behaviour in this transfer window that he's not their top transfer target. Cesc is becoming a bit of an embarrassment tbh, with all his subtle pining for Barca when they don't even rate him that much (which is not overly surprising given his poor injury record and abysmal performances last season)
sell him, he's shit :sulk: oh we can't, not even a sniff of wum bid from Citeh :(Quote:
Originally Posted by Joker
£50 mil or GTFO imo. :coffee:Quote:
Originally Posted by Ach
50 mil would be good wouldnt it!
but if we do finally sell, that wont be the price.......more closer to their last offer which should never be
I used to use Yaya Toure as a benchmark but I would say he does an equally sound job for Citeh if not better......but since then prices have gone even more crazy.......
different position granted but if Carrol goes for 35 mil then Cesc is in the 40 mil+ bracket
cash+Keita........is that crazy?
yeah cos those deals never happen....clubs want the money, bottom line
top assister for the past 5 years should be 50 million min. the interesting part about that article is their deadline of the 31st...clearly ignoring the recent one set by wenger, who wants this over by the end of july
meh let the Cunt go tbh.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ach
Agree this saga is extremely boring and could start to adversely affect our preparations for the start of the season.Quote:
Originally Posted by Charlie the Gooner
Barcelona and respect don't go in the same sentence tbh if PG really Believes what he is saying then he is a bigger and ore deluded cunt then Wenger tbh.Quote:
Barcelona have confirmed that they are still hopeful of concluding deals to sign Alexis Sanchez and Cesc Fabregas.
Both deals have been on-going for weeks, as Barca try to hammer out terms with Udinese and Arsenal respectively.
Speaking at a news conference on Tuesday coach Pep Guardiola and sporting director Andoni Zubizarreta reiterated their positions over both deals.
Although they did admit that signing a forward was a priority, suggesting they would like to do a deal for Sanchez first, they also confirmed that Arsenal are talking terms over Fabregas.
"This year Arsenal has agreed to negotiate and we are working on it," Guardiola said.
"Barcelona has made an offer, Arsenal another and we have time until August 31 and we'll try to reach an agreement.
"It is easier for Cesc in this way because he fits the template, but I know these things cannot always be done."
He added that the club have enough money to sign both Fabregas and Sanchez.
"The club has saved money to try to sign him," he said.
"We will try until the end try to bring him. I hope that eventually everything can be arranged. But sometimes things cannot be done.
"We will fight to the end to try to get Cesc because we believe he will improve the team and the squad."
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Guardiola also rubbished suggestions that Fabregas may be pretending to be injured in order not to play for Arsenal during pre-season.
"Cesc has to do what Arsenal ask of him, I do not like this insinuation that he has told them he will not play. When he is well then Wenger will play him.
"He has spoken with his coach and his club and if there is the possibility of leaving he would like to come to Barca. If we do not buy him this year then that is business."
Zubizarreta insisted that the club were treating Arsenal with 'respect' when it came to the issue of Cesc.
"The position towards Arsenal is with the utmost respect. Also to the player," he insisted.
"We always try to approach from positions of utmost respect. We have a style to do things."On Sanchez, both Guardiola and Zubizarreta outlined their desire to finalise the deal.
"Alexis has a lot of potential and I'm told he's a very good boy and that is close to the profile you want," he said.
Zubizarreta added that negotiations are "in a final process" and said: "We expect a happy ending and that Alexis is here with us soon."
Exactly, at least with him go AW would have to spend een if he did not want too.Quote:
Originally Posted by Joker
I prefer cash + Pedro but Keita is not bad either. :coffee:Quote:
Originally Posted by Japan Shaking All Over
We got no chance of pedro and why would you want him here after the way he disrespted us over fab.Quote:
Originally Posted by milla
He is a very good wide forward :good:Quote:
Originally Posted by Charlie the Gooner
I can´t believe Arsenal will settle for less than 40M, or 30odd+any of their crap. And then the poor samaritans of Barcelona will go and Spend 50M on Neymar or other filth. Doesn´t that offend Fabregas, the whore?
interesting that phw says it was a 26m bid, whilst the papers placed it 5m higher. so that could mean the 40m mark is in reality closer to 35m.
i think phw was sniffing out the sell today, stating barca cant be interested BUT a good offer will be listened to. a day after wenger calls for an end to it all, so they're putting the urgency and desire into the sell.
decent tactics as it's got a quick, concise reply from barca later in the day.
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Originally Posted by Ach
Has Guardiola really said anything we didn't already know?
i think he was clearer in terms of the money (apparently) being there, although that professor gay said that barcas finances were terrible. it sounded more resolute than their players whinging anyway
It just sounded like they made an offer, we didn't accept it, they made an offer, we didn't accept it. They haven't made another one yet. It might've been a bit more specific on to how much it was but I'm not sure I can make the leap just yet that this is actually coming to an end.
Every man and his dog knows we will sell if Barca meet our valuation. I'd be surprised if Pep had said negotiations were off the table completely.
http://www.sportinglife.com/football...soccer&BID=165
He can f**k off with his poverty thenQuote:
Barcelona coach Pep Guardiola has admitted he will prioritise signing Udinese forward Alexis Sanchez over bringing Cesc Fabregas back to the Nou Camp.
But Guardiola revealed he had been told the money was available to complete both transfers and claimed Arsenal have agreed to negotiate the sale of Fabregas to the European champions.
"The priority is a striker, as we have more players in midfield than up front," Guardiola, speaking at a press conference, was quoted as saying on the Barcelona website.
"There are midfielders in the B team that can help us out. Everything costs money, but it's a striker we need.
"As (sporting director) Andoni (Zubizarreta) has told me, there is enough money to sign them (Sanchez and Fabregas) both, and we'll be trying to do that."
Zubizarreta certainly expects a deal for Chile winger Sanchez, who has also been linked with Chelsea, Manchester City and Inter Milan, to be concluded soon.
"All three parties have worked hard and we understand that the negotiations are coming to an end," said Zubizarreta, whose club are selling Bojan Krkic to Roma.
"Some endings are long-winded, but we hope that it is a happy one".
Barca were rebuffed by Arsenal in their pursuit of Fabregas 12 months ago but are hoping to persuade the Gunners to part with their influential skipper, who moved to London from Barcelona as a 16-year-old, this summer.
Guardiola said: "We were interested last year, but Arsenal did not put him on the market. This year they've agreed to negotiate and we will try to reach an agreement.
"You all know about Barca's interest in Cesc. There is money set aside for this player and until the last day we will try to bring in Cesc because he will make the squad better. I hope that something can be sorted. Until August 31 there is time, but at times things don't always work out."
Guardiola also spoke out against the possibility of Fabregas, who missed Arsenal's Asia tour to nurse a troublesome hamstring, forcing his exit from the Gunners, saying: "I think that Cesc has to do what Arsenal ask. For me I wouldn't like one of my players to say 'now I'm not training because I want to go'."
Zubizarreta added about the Primera Division champions' interest in Fabregas: "The position towards Arsenal is one of maximum respect because the club own the player. Also towards the player.
"From there, our position is to try and see eye to eye (on a deal), creating proposals that may be of interest, while always maintaining the maximum respect. We don't have a style of doing things by force."
Guardiola has admitted that Fabregas is not their primary target: it is a striker.Quote:
Originally Posted by Joker
I think that you are right Joker. Fabregas has become an embarrassment to them. They have played up the desire to get him back so much that they cannot back down now, despite the realisation that he will not be anything more than a bit player for them (IMO). I suspect that Guardiola would prefer to have Thiago take over from Xavi rather than Fabregas.
As I was writing this, I wondered whether Guardiola is in fact pissed off with all this. If you examine the comments and pronouncements, how many have originated from Guardiola and how many from Barca players (Fabregas friends)? How much influence and involvement has Guardiola had? Can anyone imagine Ferguson, Mourinho or Wenger allowing players dictate which players get bought?
this may be one reason that we should listen to the next upped offer!?Quote:
Fabregas, who missed Arsenal's Asia tour to nurse a troublesome hamstring
I saw Pep's press conference and he was very comme si comme sa about the whole thing, a lot of shrugging and saying that we have money put aside for Cesc but if we don't use it for him we will have to use it for something else.......if not this year then next - these are clear signs that Cesc is not the missing link in his view and that what he has is enough.......BTW coming from Pep and his team of stars this is far believable than if it were to come from Wenger and our team of sparklers.
straight swap Cesc and his hamstring for Pep and his vision?
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Originally Posted by Toronto Gooner
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well that's exactly it, they aren't dictating. i would imagine the directive comes from within, inclusive of the manager, knowing full well that they can 'get' to the player. in no way are the players dictating who they want as they are most likely following direction from inside the club, including pep.Quote:
Originally Posted by Toronto Gooner
they want him of course but are trying to do it on the cheap, if they didn't, then why put in a bid of £26mill at all? they are the most glamourous club in the world at the moment, everyone admires them (well, nearly), so with the world at their feet embarrassment is some distance away from their door.
They're toying with Cesc. If they really wanted him they would have found a way to fund the transfer. They clearly have enough money to go after Sanchez and whoever else they have bid big bucks on but they can't go up to £40m for Cesc? Such bs.
Then they have the nerve to insult us and make us look like the bad guys in the media for not giving in to their pathetic excuse of an offer. It's ridiculous.
thats what any smart club with all the power would do. if we get there one day, hopefully we do the same. taking the careful, considered approach only gets you so far nowadaysQuote:
Originally Posted by Penguin
Hopefully this is resolved before the season starts, the last thing we want is to sell late and end up panic buying with that huge wedge of cash burning a hole in out pockets, we'd get ripped off to the max.
It's pretty fucking annoying because the Cesc and Nasri sagas will dictate what we do in this window and the longer they drag on on the less likely we are to see significant arrivals.
this.......time for something to happen
would we dare offer him for 40mil - because thats the most we could sensibly get
Barca are full of shit. They have money and do spend it whenever they want a player. If they really wanted Cesc they would have come up with a ~35M offer by now. PHW said they had heard nothing since a 20M offer a month or so back. They can either pay a decent price or they can piss off. All this shit in the press is meaningless bollocks. Cesc has said time and again (and very recently too) that he is happy at the Arsenal and refutes the press speculation. That is not to say that he would not be sold to Barca for the right price but the crap about him being uphappy and desparately wanting to leave right now is horseshit.
Cesc must feel like a girlfriend who has a boyfriend but he only buys her a cheap neck less from the market but he could go and buy his mistress a nice fancy one from Tiffianys.
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Originally Posted by Mr.Singh