Either way, we're all agreed we are in the top 10 :trophy:
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Either way, we're all agreed we are in the top 10 :trophy:
Top 1 tbh
Typical Wengeritis mentality on display here. Never wanting to be the best, but ecstatic to be merely mentioned in passing.
In Europe, you are not what you say you are but what your history says you are
http://www.uefa.com/uefachampionslea...y=2204005.html
Read em and weep
And typical goalpost moving from you. You claimed we weren't in the top 10, have failed to name the 10 or more teams who are bigger so now you're just changing your argument.
It doesn't matter *that* much whether we're in the top 10 but right now we definitely are.
Man City, Chelsea, Man Utd, Bayern, Dortmund, PSG, Barca, Real, Atletico, Juve. No order.
I think we might be just outside the top 10. Not saying we can't beat any of these guys because we have beaten some of them recently but they've all had better runs than us in the CL league recently or have at least won the league in the last 3 or 4 years.
I think a lot rides om this season coming and we should be in a top 10 position without question. We should be looking to overtake Dortmund and Atletico for sure.
If it's 'better' we have to be above Man Utd; if it's 'bigger', Man Utd are obviously miles ahead but they're miles ahead of most other clubs in that sense.
It's largely irrelevant though - the better indicator is that players like Alexis and Özil wanted to join, that to me still shows we're thought of as a top club.
That's a much better indicator but I also think finances and the strength of the league comes into play with that one too. I think if Serie A weren't in such a poor poor state, there would be more players moving over to Series A and Juve.
Also, historical consistency makes a difference and Wenger has to get credit for keeping us consistent. Clubs like Dortmund and Atletico will have a very good run for a few years but won't maintain that level once raided of their good players. I'm not so sure top players will be in a hurry to sign for them just yet.
Financially we're one of the top 6 or 7, on the pitch however I wouldn't even say we're top 10, we're maing very poor use of our resources.
We need to step it this season.