Super Super Quality Transfer Speculation & Shit

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Originally Posted by selassie

Spurs show more ambition than us, that in itself says it all for me.

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Yes, they spent a shitload to get from mid-table/top 8 team to get where we are, nearly. Let's see them spend their way into a title.

And to stay on point, they've quite clearly shown no where near the same 'ambition' and chelsea and man city. Why not?

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Originally Posted by Jam Persie

Yes, they spent a shitload to get from mid-table/top 8 team to get where we are, nearly. Let's see them spend their way into a title.

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In that case we shouldn't spend a penny then.

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Originally Posted by selassie

In that case we shouldn't spend a penny then.

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We can piss on them without spending a penny.

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Originally Posted by Jam Persie

The only way to match the ambition of the mansouri's and abramovich's is to get a usmanov. That or massively improve our income. You characterise our lack of Aguero and Tevez and, very shortly, Hazard as an indictment of a lack of ambition. That's a joke. There are teams without financial constraints of any kind and there are the others who have to live within their means. Because Abramovich has a £500m yacht and I don't does that mean I lack ambition? You may as well demand I go win the lottery, and not the shitty £10m payout kind either.

By all means criticise the club for making poor decisions on things within their control, there are plenty of grievances. But don't be daft and criticise the club for not being completely free of financial constraint and claim it shows a lack of ambition vis-a-vis Man City, Chelsea or any of the other billionaire toy clubs.

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My point was more about why other teams are more attractive. Do you honestly think the better players will be happy to sign for a club who's ambition seems to be limited to a top 4 place and have no real top players?

Star players help you attract other top players, as does ambition to succeed, settling for 4th place with the kind of players we have doesn't.

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Originally Posted by Jam Persie

Yes, they spent a shitload to get from mid-table/top 8 team to get where we are, nearly. Let's see them spend their way into a title.

And to stay on point, they've quite clearly shown no where near the same 'ambition' and chelsea and man city. Why not?

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and yet players seem very interested in signing for them, more so than for us. If you want to better yourself you need better players, signing joe bloggs from the French league all the time isn't really going to work.

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Originally Posted by selassie

In that case we shouldn't spend a penny then.

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No, we need to re-shape our side after getting to a dead end. But we're not going to spend £100m on players this summer like chelsea and man city will. We're not going to be able to buy our way out like they can. We have to work much harder and be much smarter. travel with sweat v. travel with petrol

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Originally Posted by Coney

We can piss on them without spending a penny.

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Id rather we compete with the big boys if I'm honest, I take no satisfaction from finishing a point ahead of those "idiots" down the road. I'm not advocating that we spend like Citeh or Chelsea but I would like to see us show more ambition in the market. The sad thing is we're not that far away from competing with the big boys, I honestly think 3, maybe 4 really shrewd 10-20million pound signings would have us up there. We have plenty of dross to get off the wage bill to free up some funds...I mean we must have some money...somewhere...surely?

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Originally Posted by Jam Persie

No, we need to re-shape our side after getting to a dead end. But we're not going to spend £100m on players this summer like chelsea and man city will. We're not going to be able to buy our way out like they can. We have to work much harder and be much smarter. travel with sweat v. travel with petrol

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Who's talking about spending like Chelsea? Why is it when anybody mentions about us strenghtening our squad folks start saying we can't spend like Chelsea? It's like a standard Arsene Wenger response!

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Originally Posted by ItsMe

My point was more about why other teams are more attractive. Do you honestly think the better players will be happy to sign for a club who's ambition seems to be limited to a top 4 place and have no real top players?

Star players help you attract other top players, as does ambition to succeed, settling for 4th place with the kind of players we have doesn't.

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Other top teams are more attractive because they can pay more and because they can pay more, they win more. Because they win more they are more attractive. More money, more attractive.

So you ask me, why don't we have more money. That's what it boils down to.

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Originally Posted by ItsMe

and yet players seem very interested in signing for them, more so than for us. If you want to better yourself you need better players, signing joe bloggs from the French league all the time isn't really going to work.

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That's a lovely anecdotal statement which doesn't really stand up to scrutiny. Who've they signed so far? Who's desperate to join them because of their unrivalled ambition? Hazard? Tevez? Lavezzi? Falcao? Hulk? Show me quotes please because I missed them.

And if that's not the case, what are you talking about? They clearly lack ambition.

Wouldn't swap Wilshere and Ox for any two other players in the world except Ronaldo and that greasy little cheat. Hazard can kiss Jack's arse and no matter how good he is he'll be a fraction of how good Ox will be. There are no realistic signings out there for any amount of money that are better than the two we should see break through next season.