3) Almost all the deadwood (everyone barring Chamakh) looks to be gone...
Arshavin is still here, Park is still here, Bendtner is still here, Squillaci is still here, Djourou is still here
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3) Almost all the deadwood (everyone barring Chamakh) looks to be gone...
Arshavin is still here, Park is still here, Bendtner is still here, Squillaci is still here, Djourou is still here
Doubt all but Djourou will be here come the beginning of September, and tbf, DJ isn't bad for 4th choice CB.Quote:
Originally Posted by Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie
That's not true for most Gooners and an exaggeration. It's too early for all this. One game in, the transfer window hasn't shut and we've still got a way to go. GW in general has been quiet and there hasn't been many people moaning about the players we've signed. The match thread hasn't exploded either. Way to early to call anything.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ice Berg Kamping
Looking forward to the season ahead because of the signings and I'll always live in hope, but I don't think we're good enough and never will be until things change at the top. I've been gradually worn down over the past 7 years, we've gone from the sublime to the ridiculous. Anything we do now is normally met with "oh we're bound to fuck it up one way or another".
Prove me wrong, Arsenal.
exactly! seems more postive than most years, so far. 1 bad game doesnt mean lessons havent been learnt. if we are producing the same shit after 10 games say then fair enough, same shit different season. So far for its no panic yet IMO. but i am sure i will get gunned down for this.Quote:
Originally Posted by AKBapologist
well i've no issue with the players we have signed, cazorla especially is for me an inspired bit of business and it's only a shame we weren't shelling out for finished products like him in the past.......but i can't help but feel we only bought him because of Malaga's dire financial circumstance......not that I care about feeding off the misery of other clubs i'm not a high minded moralist with football. But just think we are still not prepared to spend that 20m plus on a player even if we felt that would be the difference between us winning the title and not, and we know it's not cos we couldn't afford it.
I think many frustrations are built on the silence which comes out of the club.
The clubs inability to appease media-whores, but also the clubs inability to associate itself with the normal fan.
Arsenal have always conducted things privately, and rightly so, but in a world that is driven by gossip/pundits/24hr football if things aren't done now, the club has fucked up.
If we knew that the club were honestly planning in the right direction it would help....though, it doesn't bother me, as I think aspects of what we do on the pitch show we are moving in the right direction.
Fans just have to accept that we'll never know the full story, we'll never know why things are as they are. From pure football, to finance and business....we will never know. And that frustrates people who are so used to "knowing" everything the media chucks at them 24/7.
Fuck it. I could go on.
But I won't.
If we won the league, none of this would matter in the slightest.
The thing is I don't think the club does conduct it's business well....not any more...not since Dein and Edelman left
Gazidis is a complete cretin, only a moron would try and tap up a phone company for sponsorship negotiations without doing any research and then discovering to your horror that said company is owned by the man who owns almost 30% of the club and whom so far you have refused any sort of dialogue with.
Then there is the fact that Wenger desperately needs to be reigned in, he's performing far too many tasks for the club and in many cases he is performing those tasks badly......he has completely fucked the wage bill, he refuses any sort of advice or differing opinion as to how to go about things with the squad and has made a complete cock up of our transfer/contract negotiations.
He's a good manager i think still, but he's not a lawyer or litigator and he's not a businessman.....so he needs to take a big fucking step back and the fact that the club allow him to perform all these tasks and essentially employ his own boss....shows that things aren't being run well at all.
I didn't think the reaction was that excessive on Saturday. Heard a bit of booing but nothing more than a bit of frustration/disappointment.
And I don't think the mood is that downbeat in general.
The gereral mood seems to be that we've made good signings, accept they'll need some time to gel and that we have the makings of a pretty decent side.
We have been spoilt by Wenger's glory years but 7 years without a trophy is too long for a club our our stature (it has to be acknowledged that Wenger has made us a club of this stature, we were a 'big club' before Wenger came along but he has raised our level and expectations have raised accordingly)
It is harder to win trophies these days. The billionaire-fueled clubs are very difficult to compete with (and yes yes, Fergie manages it but he's probably the best manager of all time, Wenger's no bumbling idiot but he ain't Fergie). And the stadium move, while long term a good thing for the club has in the short term, combined with poor commercial deals, restricted us somewhat. Although we have, IMO, been too cautious and that has made our lives harder than it needed be. The benefits of that may yet to be seen.
Wenger has done brilliantly to keep us top 4 IMO in an era where so many clubs are throwing such silly money around. But we've been in a few positions in the last 7 years when we could and should have won trophies and we've failed to. That is where he has failed and any other club at our level would have sacked a manager after this long.
Fairly upbeat about this season. Don't think we'll win a trophy but at least we've signed some proper quality and while I don't think we'll win a trophy i fancy us for a top 4 finish again.
I think we as fans were for a number of years content to see a team develop. But a team never develops. Two or three players may develop at any one time, but once they do, they're off. This has now become a perennial problem and I see no way out of this vicious circle. How many more transitions can we endure? How many more times can we compare squads three years apart only to note that the teams bear few resemblances?
It is not unrealistic now to look at what has gone on and come to the realisation that it is unlikely to get any better anytime soon or even in the intermediate term. If we don't prioritise any of the minor cups or if we dismiss them as we have been doing, we are not going to win anything this season and that simply will add to the clamour for anyone who does have a good season to be off or cashed in on.