when was the last time Arshavin smiled

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Originally Posted by Grimandi's Perm

You don't honestly believe that the difference between liability and world class is a few yards to the side.

Even if he played in the centre he'd have defensive responsibilities, everyone in the side should have that. He's a lazy shite, and that's no ones fault but his own.

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Originally Posted by Mr. Lahey

ANytime I have seen him down the middle, he has been brilliant. As Cripps mentioned, he was great at the Euros. I do believe this and it was stupid of Wenger to buy him and play him there. You have to play to your players strengths, Wenger doesnt and that one of the big reasons why we are where we are.

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No the guy is lazy, and of course he was going to be good at the Euro's. He is the national captain, he'd look a right idiot had he been lazy like he is here. If he cared so much he'd fight for his place imo he is not botherd that much.

I agree Wenger gets it wrong, but that is no reasons for players who under perform to get a free pass.

Too many on here want to let players off because they are played in the wrong place etc. Time to call a spade a spade tbh.

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Originally Posted by JoshGooner

I guess the last time was when he remembered he had to do fuck all and still pick up 50k (or 60k, I'm not sure) per week.

Dross on huge wages :bow:

Treatment table :bow:

Arsenal :bow:

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Originally Posted by Olivier's xmas twist

No the guy is lazy and of course he was going to be good at the Euro's he is the national captain, he look a right idiot been lazy like he is here. If he cared so much he'd fight for his place imo he is not botherd that much.

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lol he seems to play well everywhere else minus the captaincy but here so that means nothing. you play your players to their strengths, if you don't they will become disinterested and they end up not giving a shit. its the same thing in real life, the guy who hates his job most likely not perform at the same level as the guy who loves it. it is a simple concept, one that you are dismissing far too quickly.

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Originally Posted by Mr. Lahey

ANytime I have seen him down the middle, he has been brilliant. As Cripps mentioned, he was great at the Euros. I do believe this and it was stupid of Wenger to buy him and play him there. You have to play to your players strengths, Wenger doesnt and that one of the big reasons why we are where we are.

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He had a decent 30 mins at the Euros, the rest of the time he has his lazy gobshite self.

fair enough, i disagree

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Originally Posted by Mr. Lahey

Everybody and their mother knew that Arshavin's best position was down the middle. But Wenger thought he could work his magic and decided to stick him on the wing. He has never had the legs to do that job consistently but he still persisted with it. It pretty much ruined him, he cleary wasn't up for it and it effected his workrate and attitude. Funny enough as sloppy and uninterested as he looks, he is still one of our most productive players which speaks of his quality.

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He had a good burst at the Euros and then turned to into his usual half-assed ineffectual self.

It was like his Arsenal career summed up in three games.

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Originally Posted by Mr. Lahey

lol he seems to play well everywhere else minus the captaincy but here so that means nothing. you play your players to their strengths, if you don't they will become disinterested and they end up not giving a shit. its the same thing in real life, the guy who hates his job most likely not perform at the same level as the guy who loves it. it is a simple concept, one that you are dismissing far too quickly.

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If he hates his job then why has he not moved on despite being an outcast more or less, seems happy enough to sit down and collect the wages they pay him.

Lets be the way we play our players interchange anyways. So its not like he is on the right all the time. Don't think because he plays on the wing, should be an excuse for him to be poor.

Its basically like been asked by you boss to switch offices with the guy on the corner, with the rubbish view of outside. Does this mean you should not do the work to the best of your ability, because you hate that you have a bad view.

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Originally Posted by GB.

He had a good burst at the Euros and then turned to into his usual half-assed ineffectual self.

It was like his Arsenal career summed up in three games.

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Well most of his Arsenal career was based on one game vs hoof.

Play him in the right position and he'll be fine. He's our most creative player and people critisising him for his defensive play :doh: We all saw how good he was at the Euros so he's still go it.