Wenger Out?

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Originally Posted by ollie the optimist

i think most fans, even those who do think wengers time is up, would love to see him and him alone, standing there with our next trophy above his head.

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Exactly right.

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Originally Posted by ollie the optimist

no hes the best manager ever


but seriously. he gets this season, confidence is high etc so no point sacking him or announcing he is leaving until the very end. dont want that hanging over us. but he doenst deserve a new contract as yet. compared to after teh villa game, he is a lot closer to a new contract but still not quite ready for it. if by march/april we are seriously challenging, maybe even won the carling cup, then yes give him a new 2/3 year deal.

in terms of the team. last seaon there was a noticed new ruthlessness about wenger. just look at vermaelen. no sympathy, he wasnt playing well so he just dropped him. this season too, hes been quite ruthless. changing the team when needed. in 2013, we have taken more points then anyone else, ten away wins in a row. 6 clean sheets, 4 goals conceded in that run. he is clearly doing somehting right and this team right now just seems to refuse to lose.
against spurs, it wasnt hanging on praying for the whistle to go, it was a standing there saying to spurs, we can do this all day, you wont score. we are going to beat to you.

does wenger deserve to go now? no. does he deserve a new contract? not yet. but if we are seriously challenging and have won a cup, by march/april then sign him up. in fact any trophy this season gets him a new contract, id probaly say if we make a final he gets it oo

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Spot on.

We have a good platform going into the january window. If they build on that with top quality signing(s), we can really push on and compete.

Signing players in january is crucial though, we can't retreat into a safe haven where we think nature will run its course and gift us a trophy just because we signed 1 world class player in the summer. That won't happen. We must now push forward and one part of that is getting into the cycle of buying players on a regular basis again.

It's way to early for this sort of thread.

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Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory

It's way to early for this sort of thread.

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it is and it isnt. he is out of contract this season, its perfectly reasonable to discuss wether to give him a new one or not. with players, we hate it when they go into the final year, open talks two years before the end etc but why dont we with a manager?

I would dearly love to see that extactic smile on his face again.

No WUMger smile.

Just that "We just won the league at Old Trafford" smile.

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Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory

It's way to early for this sort of thread.

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I don't see how there's any right or wrong time to have a debate about this sort of thing.
People's views about this will vary over time but for most of the summer there were very few people defending Wenger.
A very good signing and start to the season and that will clearly change people's opinions so I started the thread to find out where people were at right now.
It's pretty much the point of this place :shrug:

Wenger has been remiss in not strengthening the squad. It borders on dereliction of duty and also shows a level of borderline incompetence. In addition I question his business acumen and that of the executive team in wheeling and dealing for new players. It would seem that they are regarded as a soft touch by other clubs. Why do they leave things to the last minute? Close the deals early, that would make their lives and our lives far easier.

My jury on Wenger is still out and pondering.

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Originally Posted by LDG

I would dearly love to see that extactic smile on his face again.

No WUMger smile.

Just that "We just won the league at Old Trafford" smile.

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:gp: this.

there would be no greater sight in football this season then Arsene standing there with that trophy above his head, smiling as he knows he did it. and did it his way.

his way might have his flaws, it might drive us up the wall, but if he stands there with a trophy this season then the last 8 years will have been worth it. and as gary neville said, it would look like one of the greatest managerial performances to keep us in the top four every year. and then to win that trophy too.

My last Amazon purchase took too long to arrive - Wenger out!