Why isn't Joel Campbell being picked ahead of Sangogo?

Im not sure what to make of Joel Campbell. In 117 appearances in club football, he has 17 goals. Hardly a prolific return. Yes he played well in the world cup and is probably better then Sanogo in terms of finishing, however I don't think his hold up play is. Our system is based around a hold up striker which Giroud does pretty well, and Sanogo does do this ok, he causes problems for defence, more because they haven't got a clue what he will do next and neither does he, but I don't think Campbell would do this, nor would Alexis or Theo. I can see Campbell replacing Podolski on the left, but he does have a lot to prove.

Campbell may have a lot to prove but at least he's supplied basic proof of being a footballer. Sanogo has yet to do that. A rampaging, drunken, epileptic farmer could cause a lot of problems for defenders too and would provide almost as much randomness and unpredictability as Sanogo, but alcoholic, diseased farmers won't necessarily get you the goals you need to mount a title challenge.

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Originally Posted by Ollie the Optimist

Im not sure what to make of Joel Campbell. In 117 appearances in club football, he has 17 goals. Hardly a prolific return. Yes he played well in the world cup and is probably better then Sanogo in terms of finishing, however I don't think his hold up play is. Our system is based around a hold up striker which Giroud does pretty well, and Sanogo does do this ok, he causes problems for defence, more because they haven't got a clue what he will do next and neither does he, but I don't think Campbell would do this, nor would Alexis or Theo. I can see Campbell replacing Podolski on the left, but he does have a lot to prove.

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He was very very young at Betis and didn't score many goals but they continued to play him so they must have seen something in him. Same for Olympiakos, you don't become a regular starter for the best team in Greece without having talent. Sangogo needs to be loaned out as soon as possible and Campbell deserves to be starting, few players at his ripe age get regular football 3 seasons running. Lets not forget that he has a prolific goalscoring record at all youth levels for costa rica

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Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn

Campbell may have a lot to prove but at least he's supplied basic proof of being a footballer. Sanogo has yet to do that. A rampaging, drunken, epileptic farmer could cause a lot of problems for defenders too and would provide almost as much randomness and unpredictability as Sanogo, but alcoholic, diseased farmers won't necessarily get you the goals you need to mount a title challenge.

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its really a joke that for the amount of quality we have in our midfield and defence that are striking options could be so bad. Does anyone remember a time in the last 14 years when arsenal had worse striking options then they do now?

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Originally Posted by Dicks and chicks

its really a joke that for the amount of quality we have in our midfield and defence that are striking options could be so bad. Does anyone remember a time in the last 14 years when arsenal had worse striking options then they do now?

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No - my grandad probably couldn't remember a worst choice of striking options for Arsenal ( if he wasn't dead ) - but I don't see him bringing anyone in - we'll never know if his unbelievable decision to not bolster the attack in Jan cost us the title last year.
people are talking about Sanchez & Walcot being pushed up top but they are not natural finishers or guys likely to bang a 12 yard header in from a cross. If we can't find anyone abroad & don't want to spend Cavani money I think a punt for Bonny woud have been worth a shout or even Jay Rodriguez.

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Originally Posted by Dein-machine

No - my grandad probably couldn't remember a worst choice of striking options for Arsenal ( if he wasn't dead ) - but I don't see him bringing anyone in - we'll never know if his unbelievable decision to not bolster the attack in Jan cost us the title last year.
people are talking about Sanchez & Walcot being pushed up top but they are not natural finishers or guys likely to bang a 12 yard header in from a cross. If we can't find anyone abroad & don't want to spend Cavani money I think a punt for Bonny woud have been worth a shout or even Jay Rodriguez.

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a 75 million punt?

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Originally Posted by Globalgunner

When Wenger makes up his mind about a pet project. He goes about it with the single mindedness of a zealot. Criticising him or the player will just make him more adamant to prove everyone wrong.
He will continue to play Sanogo even when it is obvious to the blind that he isnt good enough. Fair play to Wenger he gives kids a chance, but shouldn't that be for special kids like Cesc?, Reyes. Instead he continued to play Eboue, Senderos, Djourou, even when they were costing us games and points. It all goes back to his personal philosophies and the absence of pressure on him to succeed. If your job was on the line, you wouldn't allow your subordinates to mess you up further. Campbell is a better player, Akpom probably too, but they wont get a look in until it is overwhelmingly and conclusively proven that Yaya wont make it, Sometime circa 2017, I think.

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Post of the year tbh

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Originally Posted by Dicks and chicks

a 75 million punt?

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who's worth £75 mill that I mentioned?

I notice that those whining in this thread are exactly the same lot in tears that Jenkinson has been facked off :haha:

Sanogos agent is a mug for not giving him the "lifelong gooner me" script.

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Originally Posted by Ollie the Optimist

Im not sure what to make of Joel Campbell. In 117 appearances in club football, he has 17 goals. Hardly a prolific return. Yes he played well in the world cup and is probably better then Sanogo in terms of finishing, however I don't think his hold up play is. Our system is based around a hold up striker which Giroud does pretty well, and Sanogo does do this ok, he causes problems for defence, more because they haven't got a clue what he will do next and neither does he, but I don't think Campbell would do this, nor would Alexis or Theo. I can see Campbell replacing Podolski on the left, but he does have a lot to prove.

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That's where we're going wrong with our system. This obsession with finding some brute of a player up front, looking at physical attributes and hold up play instead of goal scoring ability and pace that scares the life out of defenders. We've moved away from what we had in Wright, Anelka and Henry and it's costing us. When RVP was fit for a season, we had a glimpse of what a top striker should be doing but now we're back to these big old lumps and it started with Adebayor, continued with Chamakh and now we're on to Giroud and Sanogo. Guys that have serious problems hitting the back of the net.

I don't see the harm in trying Sanchez or Walcott up front? What's the worse that can happen? When we played Walcott up top a couple of seasons back, he looked a menace and the tempo of the game was totally different. At worse, we play a little guy up front and he struggles like with what we saw when Theo played Bayern but is that any different to what we're seeing with these big guys we keep playing?