Plus we clearly demonstrated in the final weeks we cannot compete. So that, at least, will need to change dramatically.
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Plus we clearly demonstrated in the final weeks we cannot compete. So that, at least, will need to change dramatically.
Our season assessment should be based on what our aspirations are at the start of it. 16 teams in the Pl would kill for our position but the truth is we are in a geostationary orbit when it comes to stellar expectations. We cannot seem to break the huge gravitational pull of having Wenger as our manager. In my lifetime I have seen or heard of Forest and Villa winning CL. When the fk will Arsenal win one?. Certainly not with U-know-who at the helm.
The problem for me lays with the spine of the team. Mediocre GK, ageing slow CB, inexperienced DM & no world class striker. In the wider positions on the pitch I think we are just as strong as Chelsea & City but if we don't get real quality in the spine I don't think we can challenge.Quote:
Originally Posted by Letters
Personally I'd remove the FA cup points as a marker. Winning a domestic cup is no indication of progression, especially when the teams you face are so random. It doesn't feel like this season is any better than the last - winning the cup was nice but not something you proudly parade around to other fans. Last years win was more about breaking such a long gap rather than what the trophy meant itself.
The league and CL is the only real way to show progress, so as usual, it's about waiting and most probably putting misplaced faith in the manager again until the next let down. Reaching second for the first time in almost a decade would've meant something, showed a sense of progression but because of our awful start that proved too much in the end. We also finished further away from the champions than last year - four points further combined with four less points in total says something - which is even more of an indication than final positions. As it stands, this squad cannot win the league and I think Wenger - as he did when we won the league - will not being in sufficient quality to push us on.
Same season as the last season in terms of what we expected to achieve and we actually achieved. For me, there were 2 massive positives- Sanchez and Coq. Coq to me was the best player for Arsenal in 2015.. We need a back up to him or else his injury will bring Arteta back in, and that is criminal!
Negative for this season- Arsene Wenger.
He's paid 8 million quid to do nothing but win two major trophies in two years :sulk:
Please stop calling the FA Cup a major trophy. It hasn't been that for a long time. The PL and CL are major trophies.
the complacency shown by the team at the beginning of the season and end of he season was telling for me. FA cup aside - this team did not get the results we needed when we needed them. that's the bottom line! Wenger did not have his team focused enough or motivated enough heading into the season, heading into the CL nor did he have them focused ending the season. 2nd place was in our hands and we completely blew it - in same old Arsenal fashion. Finishing 2nd, above one of the dopers would have been significant, especially as those who back WEnger use other Clubs payroll as an excuse as to why we cant finish above them. WE HAD THEM BEATEN but we didn't show up to finish the job off. Don't get me wrong, I thoroughly enjoyed the cup win but that is not a sign of true progress.
Plenty of people turned out for the parades, they obviously think it is :good:Quote:
Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn
It clearly is not a major trophy unless there are some other superlatives I'm unaware of for the League and CL.