Match Reaction vs Red Star Belgrade (away)

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20-10-2017, 10:13 AM
Özim

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Originally Posted by Penguin

Wenger's comments about us responding to Deeney made me laugh. How exactly did we show character last night?

We were awful for the whole game, and could barely muster up a decent chance apart from that one that fell to Theo in the first half. If anything we buckled under the pressure AGAIN and had to rely on Cech to bail us out with a few good saves. If Belgrade scored one of those chances I don't think we would have had it in us to come back.

It was a great goal though, the only saving grace from a piss poor game.

Honestly the guy just does not have a clue, he's an awful manager that literally lives in a different world to everyone else, he sees everything differently, if you told him the Earth is round he'd claim that it's actually flat, he just talks utter nonsense.
20-10-2017, 10:14 AM
Penguin

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Originally Posted by Özim

He's not been playing a full team though, we we're far off from coming unstuck last night, more down to luck than skill really. Yes and he did, but I was saying that in the context that it's not the competition it once was because clubs devalued it by playing weakened sides (Wenger certainly played his part and it will no longer ever be what it once was), which is true, 10 years ago it meant more.

No we're not, I'd play weakened teams in the FA Cup and League (before the Europa League) over the Europa league personally, league is a waste of time and personally would rather win the Europa league and get in the CL that way than doing it the losers way and coming 4th in the league. I don't think we will win it of course, but it's our best competition this year given that we won't win the league, the league Cup and FA Cups are very nice and all that as extras but not as the main goal.

Gone are the days when you genuinely try to win everything you enter (for us anyway), so no we may as well prioritise the more important ones, which is the Europa league bearing in mind the league is out, FA Cup and League cup are nice additions but would rather win the European trophy over those any day of the week.

We can't afford to throw all our eggs in one basket. Mourinho could do that last season because he's a solid tactician and knew he had a great chance of winning the Europa league once they got to the quarter finals. Frankly I don't trust Wenger enough to win the Europa league. This isn't the FA cup where we can scrape past teams like Reading and Hull.
20-10-2017, 10:33 AM
Özim

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Originally Posted by Penguin

We can't afford to throw all our eggs in one basket. Mourinho could do that last season because he's a solid tactician and knew he had a great chance of winning the Europa league once they got to the quarter finals. Frankly I don't trust Wenger enough to win the Europa league. This isn't the FA cup where we can scrape past teams like Reading and Hull.

True yes, but the FA Cup/League are no consolation, no place in Europe from either of them, for me that means tey are great as an additional prize to the other trophies but not great as a standalone success.

Wenger isn't a great tactician of course, in all likelyness we won't win the Europa league, once the CL teams dropout one of them will probably do away with us.
20-10-2017, 10:50 AM
Dicks and chicks

Watching Giroud is like losing my anal virginity, absolutely nothing for long period of time then it ends in a filthy moment of magic.
20-10-2017, 10:54 AM
Marc Overmars

To be honest I think we have a better chance of winning this than we do finishing 4th. I hope we use a stronger squad after Christmas when the better teams get involved.

This is our level and it sure as hell beats getting smashed every year in the CL. This experience might even help us improve our performance in the CL if/when we qualify for it again.
20-10-2017, 10:59 AM
Letters

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Originally Posted by Özim

Honestly the guy just does not have a clue, he's an awful manager that literally lives in a different world to everyone else.

Awful manager with an "average" squad and we finished 5th (his lowest ever finish) and won the FA Cup. :lol:

Must have just got very, very lucky I guess.
20-10-2017, 12:34 PM
Özim

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Originally Posted by Letters

Awful manager with an "average" squad and we finished 5th (his lowest ever finish) and won the FA Cup. :lol:

Must have just got very, very lucky I guess.

Already explained that, size of squad. 5th is rubbish though, it's not an achievement, FA Cup is 2nd tier, Portsmouth and Wigan have won it in recent times, for some reason you can't seem to grasp the concept.
20-10-2017, 12:34 PM
McNamara That Ghost...

Ground one out against former European champions if you ask me.
20-10-2017, 12:56 PM
Letters

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Originally Posted by Özim

Already explained that, size of squad.

And I've already explained that size is part of how you assess the strength of a squad

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5th is rubbish though

Sounds pretty good for an "average" squad with an "awful" manager :good:
20-10-2017, 01:02 PM
Özim

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Originally Posted by Letters

And I've already explained that size is part of how you assess the strength of a squad

Sounds pretty good for an "average" squad with an "awful" manager :good:

It isn't, quality is IMO and quality backups, we have players who can do a job but who aren't really good enough for a club wanting to challenge,

It isn't.

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