This Weekend's Fixtures & One Other (26/27 Apr & 01/05).

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Originally Posted by HCZ_Reborn

But still though, fuck them.

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:lol:

Good point, well made.

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Originally Posted by Marc Overmars

I’m bitter about the title too but that anger is more directed at our lame ass efforts this year. I’ve honestly never been bothered by Liverpool. Of all the big clubs I’ve considered our rivalry with them to be the least spiteful. If offered a choice I would much rather see them win things than Chelsea, City, United or Spurs.

Think I’ve always been a little envious of the history and connection the fans seem to have with the club and what that has pushed them on to achieve, especially against the odds.

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Leaving SIB aside, I've not been sure what I thought of some of their fans and players historically - I think there's more nuance to Hillsborough than is generally safe to talk about :ninja:, then you have Heysel which is pretty clear and got English clubs banned from Europe (including, ironically, Everton which I'm sure amused Liverpool fans), also I didn't particularly like the sides of the 80's, Souness was a dirty so-and-so in particular. Still, I get that's in the past.

But yes, I would rather they won the odd title more than Spuds (obvs), Citeh, Man Ure, Chelsea...

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Originally Posted by HCZ_Reborn

Who says I’m not angry at those things as well

I’m mainly angry because this is our title they are winning to my mind

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it's not 'our title' - leaving aside the refereeing decisions, the club left us chronically understaffed in attack and also Arteta was still not deploying the right teams and tactics which would have showed a winning mentality (I will again mention Brighton at home)

though tbh I'm glad of all that because if we'd lost by just a very few points after those ref decisions I'd never have got over it - that's partly why I don't care as much as others about being second tbh

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Originally Posted by Mac76

Leaving SIB aside, I've not been sure what I thought of some of their fans and players historically - I think there's more nuance to Hillsborough than is generally safe to talk about :ninja:, then you have Heysel which is pretty clear and got English clubs banned from Europe (including, ironically, Everton which I'm sure amused Liverpool fans), also I didn't particularly like the sides of the 80's, Souness was a dirty so-and-so in particular. Still, I get that's in the past.

But yes, I would rather they won the odd title more than Spuds (obvs), Citeh, Man Ure, Chelsea...

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End of the day they prevented Spurs from winning the CL. Something that would have sent us all into the gutter had it happened.

Lads, it's Tottenham

Chelsea 1-0 Everton, Jackson.

Horrible collision between Sanchez and Mykolenko.

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Originally Posted by Mac76

it's not 'our title'

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I know what HCZ means though. We are the only side to have challenged City over the last 2 seasons. Last year we pushed them all the way to the final day.
We should have been the best placed to take advantage when they finally dropped a level.
It's jolly annoying to see Liverpool nip in and win it instead.

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Originally Posted by Marc Overmars

I’m bitter about the title too but that anger is more directed at our lame ass efforts this year. I’ve honestly never been bothered by Liverpool. Of all the big clubs I’ve considered our rivalry with them to be the least spiteful. If offered a choice I would much rather see them win things than Chelsea, City, United or Spurs.

Think I’ve always been a little envious of the history and connection the fans seem to have with the club and what that has pushed them on to achieve, especially against the odds.

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Yup, this is exactly how I feel.

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Originally Posted by Marc Overmars

End of the day they prevented Spurs from winning the CL. Something that would have sent us all into the gutter had it happened.

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A very good point, extremely well made :good: