Where does that leave McGoldrick?Quote:
Originally Posted by Grimandi's Perm
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Where does that leave McGoldrick?Quote:
Originally Posted by Grimandi's Perm
I don't know.Quote:
Originally Posted by GB.
Where is he now?
Again, we don't know that he would only be here for 2 years. There was blatantly more to his departure from Chelsea and his position at inter was made untenable after his run ins with the Italian media.Quote:
Originally Posted by Charlie the Gooner
Just more assumptions.
It's onwards and upwards for Eddie!Quote:
Originally Posted by Grimandi's Perm
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Prior to becoming player-manager at Corby Town he had a brief spell as commercial manager. In 2008 he was confirmed as the under-14s manager at Northampton Town,[2] and the following year he stepped up to become manager of the club's youth team.
Mike Tyson would be a good choice, they wouldn't fuck with him. Or Paulo DiCannio, Eric Cantona, basically anyone who will resort to violence in board meetings.
Les Reed is the only choice. :good:
steve bould.
worked for barca, he knows the club inside out and will teach the defense.
klinsmann. done a great job with germany and loves youth. could fit in well.
ancelotti. wants to come back to premier league so could be tempted even though he's at PSG.
rodgers. rumours are hes being lined up for chelsea as he's an ex chelsea lad. but he'd come here.
rijkaard. managing in saudi arabia and long been attributed for laying much of barca's current success.
klopp.
there are managers out there.
wenger out.
did he?Quote:
Originally Posted by She Wore A Yellow Ribbon
:lol:Quote:
Originally Posted by Charlie the Gooner
Good list and post HCZ :good:
Personally I've mentioned practically all those names in the last 4-5 years, trying to get the Arsene Fanatics to see that there is life, and life more abundant after sliced bread.
Anyway I said it 2 years ago, that the way things were going the least the highest paying fans in the world would deserve is a Mourinhoesque deliverer- 8 missed trophies later (and don't forget to add the price increases attributed to watching this cumless football), that sentiment still remains strong.
I firmly believe in our current state and with the rag-tag army we have at our disposal, only 2 managers could guarantee us trophies almost instantly:
1. Guss Hiddink: The best experienced European manager around, a worker of miracles, an all round football man and frankly the best fit for Arsenal bar none.
2,Jose Mourinho: A distant second, but far superior to all other contenders mainly because of our (and "our" here means fans, players and even the board) pressing need for something that resembles silverware in the not too distant future.
I mentioned Klopp long ago, probably before anyone else in this forum but that was when things hadn't sunk this low. At the moment the pressure on any manager after AW would disadvantage the likes of Klopp, Pep or any other manager with one club success- we need a man, someone who has seen pressure in almost all it's forms and realises this job is doable. Thus 3rd choice would be a LVG.
And for those discounting Mourinho because "we don't need that sort", you are making the mistake that we, AW and the board have been making for almost 7 years now. It sounds stupid but what's the use of always being perturbed about the big picture when your Artist can't even draw? If we get a coach who can actually COACH this team, then the rest will fall in place (FFS look at Man U).
mourinho is unproven on a restricted budget and thats what he'd be working with so not him.
klopp or someone I guess.
PortoQuote:
Originally Posted by BOBN
He did quite well with Uniao de Leiria in the short time he was there too, got them their highest ever league finish. In any case, everyone is 'unproven' to a certain degree so if you discard anyone and everyone on that basis, that'd just mean us sticking with the same old, same old.
Mourinho is as proven as you get, he gets players playing as a unit and and is tactically brilliant....budget or no budget you'll see a big improvement because he gets the best out of players, at Inter he sold to bring in the right players...guess what they won the treble.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fats
He also doesn't put up with any sh*t with players.
Drab football (can't get away with it at Real Madrid but he'd manage it with us), cult of personality, starting feuds with managers and match officials throughout the game.....I am sure I am not the only one who feels this way I don't want that wretched man anywhere near Arsenal football club. He is an enemy to football
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Originally Posted by ItsMe
Yep agree 100% every time he looses to Barca he goes on like a little kid its embaressing. Hate the fact he sends his players to kick the shit out of other teams who play beautiful football.Quote:
Originally Posted by Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie
i hate to sound like a broken record but I really think Jurgen Klopp is the answer, has worked miracles with a shoestring budget and gets his team to play with determination and desire, yes we can say they didn't perform well in Europe but I think he would adapt to that environment as well given time.
Dortmund are a very similar club to Arsenal, big fan base but not the biggest budget, and I think despite our current situation Klopp would jump at the chance to manage us next season even if he wins a second Bundesliga title as I believe he will.
He only does that because barca are ****s and have most of the officials in their pockets.Quote:
Originally Posted by Charlie the Gooner
I can see where Zimm and co and coming from with Jose, he'd have us Winning(well looking like winners at least) He stand up to the board etc. But for me his behaviour is moronic like has been pointed out. We already have too many Egotiscal twats at this club we really don't need any more.
ANd i know people will day look who he won the CL with yeah it was good with inter and they were the best team no doubt, and he did it with porto Admmitingly cheating the mancs along the way to do it and having no competion from the 1/4 finals onwards.
Even so be the better team, but he fails to even do that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jeebus
The manchester united of portugal and some of absolute best portuguese talent around.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fats
I like the guy, im not knocking him, but a job like arsenal would be out of his comfort zone.
Agreed the best in their league. However they won the champions league too. And they were not lucky. They played a good brand of football, not negative shite that Maureen seems to be branded with.Quote:
Originally Posted by BOBN
I thought they were very lucky. Nice path and the decisions against united.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fats
Anyway that footballs you cant take that win away from him, and if he was willing to work on the sort of budget hed get here the i wouldnt say no, because one thing that man knows how to do is pick his jobs well. He doesnt go anywhere where hes doesnt feel hes likely to succeed
Of course they were lucky, they cheated against the mancs to get through, and never really faced anyone decent in the latter stages did they, i don't think they'd have won it, if they met us or chavs in the final that year. However you do need luck and they got itQuote:
Originally Posted by Fats
:lol:
the irony.
people dont want mourinho because of his behaviour/demeanour, whilst quickly forgetting we have a manager who constantly whinges, has a go at other managers/officials, has scrapped with managers on the touchline, is completely dishonest with the media/fans, never stays behind for a drink with opposition managers, in general is an absolute tosser (reason we dont admit this is because he's our manager. if we supported another team you'd all be saying it).
Charlie could you put me on ignore please
BBC has MOS running a story about AW exit being filled by Pep
"Drab football (can't get away with it at Real Madrid but he'd manage it with us), cult of personality, starting feuds with managers and match officials throughout the game.....I am sure I am not the only one who feels this way I don't want that wretched man anywhere near Arsenal football club. He is an enemy to football"
i think you can apply everything you said about Mourhino to Wenger these days. you can add insults the fans on a weekly basis to WEnger as well.
Bit childish tbhQuote:
Originally Posted by Fats
and you know that how, even if he does not who even cares at the end of the day.Quote:
Originally Posted by She Wore A Yellow Ribbon
I wouldn't mind if Mourinho took charge of Arsenal but comparing him as a person to Wenger is severely lacking perspective.
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Originally Posted by Charlie the Gooner
errr because hes said it himself. hardly gonna make things up am i:
http://www.arsenal.com/news/news-arc...-with-managers
Arsène Wenger's reluctance to drink with his fellow managers is not down to shyness, aloofness or a lack of camaraderie – he simply prefers self-reflection after away games.
The Frenchman has spent 14 years in the Premier League but he rarely shares a post-match tipple with his opposite number. Wenger's resistance to that particular English tradition has created a perception that he can be distant and detached from his rivals.
But the Arsenal boss insists that is not the case. Speaking at his pre-match press conference, Wenger explained that socialising after matches can be difficult for a number of reasons.
"I've got nothing against it [the tradition]," he said.
"When you play away from home you are in a hurry to catch the plane and you are playing three days later. Once I do my press [media work] - and my press can last quite a while - I have no time. Most of the time my assistant will go and have a drink.
"I recognise that [can make me seem aloof] but there's no bad feeling in that, I just feel after the game you stay on your own and you don't want to disturb people. I've always had that philosophy, even in France.
"When I arrived here I didn't know anyone. The managers all knew each other and played alongside each other but when you arrive from a foreign country you don't know anyone.
"I'm not shy," Wenger added. "I didn't even know this tradition existed before I came here. And it's not that we have nothing in common - we love football and we both love to win.
"I'm always happy to meet people at the Emirates but away from home we want to get away as quickly as possible. After the game my mind is on the next game but sometimes other managers go quickly as well. When we are at home we always invite them in."
:lol:
and martin o neill few weeks back:
"I don't think Arsene has ever taken up the offer of a post-match drink and I've absolutely no problem with that whatsoever, none at all. But it's there if he wants it."
ahh jog on pal.Quote:
Originally Posted by Syn
i was merely pointing out the hypocrisy of some fans. nothing more, nothing less.
Ooooh he won't share a drink with other managers! What a fucking monster!
:haha:
you taking my words and twisting them once again :haha: :haha:
i gave a list of reasons why fans are being hypocritical.
thats twice ive told you now, you need to learn to read and understand posts better :haha:
And they're bullshit. Including garbage like he won't share a drink with other managers. Who gives a fuck.Quote:
Originally Posted by She Wore A Yellow Ribbon
I understand completely the point you're trying to make. It's a silly 'holier than thou' attitude in reponse to - what you believe - is a 'holier than thou' stance. The irony of that is cringe-worthy enough. Add the fact that your point is wrong makes it embarrassing.
Ideal senario for me is that Wenger openly admits he has fcuked up, says he will be on the market for quality and will get rid of the dross.
Thereafter he sells useless fcuks like Rosicky, Chamack, Squilachi, Theo the list goes on.
He then buys quality like Gotze, Hazard etc
If Wenger buys quality and then does his whole football thing i have would love for him to stay....a Wenger pre 2007 is a genius and one of the best of all time.
However if he maintains this crazy persona/economist/moralist between right and wrong in football...then bring me in someone else...frankly i dont even care who
Wenger is disliked outside of Arsenal by many, his constant digs at other clubs, scraps with other managers and ignorance of the truth are one of many reasons.
In addition the fact he takes his own fans for fools is making many dislike him from within the club, I personally don't really like him much, basically because he's a total liar and has no real respect for the fans IMO.
I remember when he had the audacity to blame the Adebayor situation on the fans, what a deluded pr*ck that was his fault in the 1st place due to his inability to manage his players and keep them in line.
That's just one of many examples. Never has such a compulsive liar been so revered.
you prove my point perfectly.Quote:
Originally Posted by Syn
ur blind to see it. every point i made is true about wenger. all facts.
yours is an opinion.
so completely wortheless.