But its not A failed style Swansea have proved that its only Wenger has not bought the players for it thats the diffence.Quote:
Originally Posted by Joker
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But its not A failed style Swansea have proved that its only Wenger has not bought the players for it thats the diffence.Quote:
Originally Posted by Joker
He won it with Rijkaards team. Most of his signings, the jury is still out, none have been a major success and the youth players he brought through are alwful like Tello, Thiago etcQuote:
Originally Posted by Charlie the Gooner
Yes sorry I should have rephrased that. You're right, the style as such can work, but you need top quality technicians to make it work, which we do not have. That is Wenger's fault.Quote:
Originally Posted by Charlie the Gooner
Like i said he has not spent mone cause he did not need too. But like you say not any manager can manage a succesful team and he did.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ach
Even when he let the top players go he still managed to keep Barca a Success. Not saying he will do that with us or he will come to us. We maybe better getting klopp. But id never say no to Pep he had done amazing.
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Originally Posted by Joker
Villa, Alves, Chygrinski, Mascherano, Ibrahimovic, Cáceres all pretty big transfers if you ask me on top of an already great squad.Quote:
Originally Posted by Charlie the Gooner
He's done well, don't like his style of football though and think that he's had plenty of money to spend as well, for me though he's another Wenger in a sense he won't change something as was proved against Chelsea as they kept trying to play through the middle and had no alternative to a tactic which wasn't working too well against 10 men.
They were playing 10 men with a makeshift defence on top of that, to be honest what they created was poor I watched it. They had a lot of possession but not that many chances all things considered.Quote:
Originally Posted by Letters
See, a lot of people say that FakeYank, and I can kinda see where they're coming from (history of trophies, etc). However, if we're looking at a certain point in time, given comparative resources, given the style of football they play, then Pep at Barcelona has to be the best in the world.Quote:
Originally Posted by fakeyank
He bought success.
Pretty clear to everyone
This. In a nutshell. If we don't have the technicians, and if we can't get the technicians, then we need Hiddink. A manager who can do the very best with what is at his disposal.Quote:
Originally Posted by Joker
Hiddink will be spending money galore at Anzhi, I don't really have that much time for him anyway.
Rikjard bought those these they were there before pep got there. he has spent money but not much.Quote:
Originally Posted by ItsMe
Nope, they were all bought by Guardiola:Quote:
Originally Posted by Charlie the Gooner
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2008–09 season
In association with Barça's director of sport, Txiki Begiristain, several new signings were made by Guardiola: Daniel Alves and Seydou Keita arrived from Sevilla, Martín Cáceres from Villarreal by way of Recreativo, Gerard Piqué returned from Manchester United, and Alexander Hleb was signed from Arsenal. Henrique was also signed from Palmeiras, but was immediately loaned out to Bayer Leverkusen.[18] In interviews with the press, Guardiola stressed a harder work ethic than before, but also a more personal approach during training and a closer relationship with his players. Along with the new signings, Guardiola promoted canteranos Sergio Busquets, Pedro Rodríguez and Jeffrén Suárez to the first team squad. His influences as a coach include mostly Johan Cruyff, but also Louis van Gaal, Juan Manuel Lillo and Marcelo Bielsa.
2009–10 season
During Guardiola's second season as manager Barcelona traded Samuel Eto'o and €49 million for Zlatan Ibrahimović. The club also signed Maxwell from Internazionale and Dmytro Chygrynskiy from Shakhtar Donetsk. Many players left the club on the same transfer window; Eiður Guðjohnsen was sold to Monaco, Sylvinho and Albert Jorquera's contracts ended and other players were loaned out, including Alexander Hleb to Stuttgart, Martín Cáceres to Juventus, Alberto Botía to Sporting de Gijón and Víctor Sánchez to Xerez.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Josep_Guardiola
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Originally Posted by Charlie the Gooner
Pep bought them
Stop speaking sense.Quote:
Originally Posted by ItsMe
Even so he still has not splashed out loads like the guy at Madrid.Quote:
Originally Posted by ItsMe
Most of Peps players have come from the youth system even when he sold the top players they were still succesful. Id like to see if Jose Sold Madrids top players and playing with players from the youth team how well he'd do.
Can't believe some people on here don't want the most succefull manager of the last 3 years because he either plays poor footie or managed the best team in the world last season.
Joses hardly spent muchQuote:
Originally Posted by Charlie the Gooner
He has spent a fair whach tbh, ok so Madrid had a good sqaud when he got there but he bought in a few players over the last few years.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ach
He'd have spent more then pepe in the last 2 years.
Nonsense, he's spent loads...Ibrahimovic alone cost a small fortune as did Villa and Cesc.Quote:
Originally Posted by Charlie the Gooner
He's spent plenty that's a fact.
I don't believe he'll bring success, the Barca formula won't work with the players we have nor will it work without spending big time...in addition I don't want us playing that tippy tappy cr*p we've been playing for years.Quote:
Originally Posted by Charlie the Gooner
Zlatan :lol:
£45m plus Eto'o which takes it up to £70m+
And Pep doesnt spend money?
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Got to be one of the worst signings in history surely, Mourinho did a good job with that deal for sure.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ach
Pretty much and i like Zlatan but he was terrible for them and certainly not worth that.Quote:
Originally Posted by ItsMe
Dont forget that Ukranian dude for £20m+ who was terrible and sold asap
Cesc is going to Birmingham this summer as a failure
Villa, again hit and miss. Had his longest drought ever while at Barca and now has a long term injury.
Mascherano has been too shit in DM so move back to CB so another failure
Oh dear and they wonder why GW has no new posters.
Cos the truth is spoken about Barca?Quote:
Originally Posted by Charlie the Gooner
Yup agree with that, the players he's added haven't been as good as they should have been, it's really the regulars who have driven that team, players who were there when he arrived.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ach
Barca were winning before he arrived.
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Originally Posted by Ach
If you took that from what i said then your a numpty.
Why because people give their opinions about maybe what he's achieved isn't as spectacular as it might appear on paper?Quote:
Originally Posted by Charlie the Gooner
I don't like his football and wouldn't want him as manager, it amazes me, you discredit Mourinho for all his achievements at multiple clubs...but think that a guy who inherited a winning team with loads of money and has only succeeded at one club is miles better.
Mourinho has already beaten him to the title and it's only take him 2 seasons.
We'll see how Guardiola does next time round, but I suspect that other than tippy tappy football you won't see much else, that's unless he inherits another winning team.
Pretty muchQuote:
Originally Posted by ItsMe
Barca were touted as the best in the world ever. Mourinho comes in to rival them and 2 seasons later, Barca are in turmoil.
Some best side ever they turned out to be :lol:
Well obviously and i never said they were not. But its not like he had to spend 500 mill on a new team is it.Quote:
Originally Posted by ItsMe
He didn't inherit a winning team Zim, they hadn't won a trophy for two seasons. Anyway, this is stupid. Out of all the options that are likely to be available, Guardiola is the best on offer (given we know he will be without a club).
The transfer policy has been a bit shit (whoever sanctioned that Ibrahimovic deal deserves a season ticket at the Britannia). And Aliaksandr Pleb was the greatest freeloader of his time. But those players who were there weren't performing at the level of recent years before Guardiola. He definitely maxed them out, and that deserves real credit. Hard to believe now that Xavi wasn't even in the team in the 2006 Champions League final. And Iniesta was a sub was he not? Think he came on at HT for some pubber. Guardiola's dedication and results in that regard are amazing. I think some of those transfers were motivated by a Twitchy complex of needing to have a transfer fix. It's not like any of them compromised Barcelona's success in those seasons. Apart from Cesc :haha:. I don't see much reason as to why Guardiola couldn't succeed elsewhere. He might be able to turn Denilson into Iniesta. But obviously all this has to be proven.
Yet he did it hin his 1st season in Italy did he not.Quote:
Originally Posted by ItsMe
Lets be honest Real desevred to win the league, they had a better squad then Barca and better players and a team that had Gheld together.
Barca's team had not Gheld they were not better then Real sqaud so of couse Jose should have won the league easy simples.
You not liking his Playing still is irrlevant to what i was saying, thats your opionion and your welcome to it.
End of the day out of me an you im not the won who wants the manger to spends mills at clubs and wins things.
My point it you all go on about Wenger out and all this crap and the 1st time somebody Mentions someone good enough to replace him, its we don't want him he plays shit football and all this crap.
Most of you just seem to want a man that will spend 20 Mill on each postion and play some good football.
Capello tbhQuote:
Originally Posted by McNamara That Ghost...
Stop talking Sense.Quote:
Originally Posted by McNamara That Ghost...
Both you guys should stop trying to talk logic with Tweedle Dip and Tweedle Shit.Quote:
Originally Posted by Charlie the Gooner
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Originally Posted by GB.
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Originally Posted by GB.
Which one are you?
Got to say think Guardiola is a coward, as soon as things appear to be coming to an end and he's not getting everything his own way he leaves...it's easy to stick around when things are going well, much harder when things need fixing though.