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Originally Posted by AKBapologist
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Pretty much.Quote:
Originally Posted by AKBapologist
already?Quote:
Originally Posted by AKBapologist
Think Giroud needs to play up top against Stoke.
From ladyarse:
Goals: Arsenal 0 Sunderland 0
Shots: Arsenal 22 Sunderland 4
Shots on target: Arsenal 3 Sunderland 2
Saves: Arsenal 2 Sunderland 3
Crosses: Arsenal 57 Sunderland 14
Fouls committed: Arsenal 11 Sunderland 9
Offside: Arsenal 2 Sunderland 1
Corners: Arsenal 7 Sunderland 0
Yellows: Arsenal 0 Sunderland 0
Possession: Arsenal 62% Sunderland 38%
Touch passes: Arsenal 647 Sunderland 229
Touches total: Arsenal 965 Sunderland 557
Touches interceptions: Arsenal 100 Sunderland 30
Blocks: Arsenal 2 Sunderland 10
(stats from whoscored.com)
Throwins: Arsenal 22 Sudnerland 17
Dribbles won: Arsenal 23 Sunderland 4
Tackles: Arsenal 16 Sunderland 28
Pass accuracy: Arsenal 91% Sunderland 75%
Aerials won: Arsenal 44% Sunderland 56%
Possession: Arsenal 70% Sunderland 30%
Player ratings:
Arsenal:
Szczesny 6.9
Gibbs 7.5
Vermaelen 6.8
Mertesacker 6.6
Jenkinson 7.5
Arteta 7.4
Diaby 7.3
Gervinho 7.9
Cazorla 8.3
Walcott 7.0
Podolski 6.3
Giroud 5.8
Arshavin 6.4
Ramsey 6.3
Sunderland:
Mignolet 7.1
Richardson 7.8
Cuellar 7.7
O’Shea 7.0
Gardner 7.1
McClean 6.5
Cattermole 7.2
Larsson 6.5
Colback 6.6
Campbell 6.8
Sessehnon 6.2
Elmohamady 6.4
Saha 6.3
Meyler 6.2
with all those shots and possession? telling.Quote:
Originally Posted by AKBapologist
That's what you get when you rely on your midfield to create goal scoring opportunities.Quote:
Originally Posted by gooners
Disappointing result because we didn't win as expected .
But some positives :
Carzola looking good and would be awesome .
Boys start shooting frome distance : no chamakh syndrome anymore .
Defence looked organised even without a proper defensive midfielder .
Diaby not losing balls in dangerous area as he used to do .
But sadly some negatives as well :
Drawing at home against an average team
Gervinho and walnut clueless and wasteful in the flanks .
Main striker not receiving enough balls .
playing with handbreak on as Wenger would have said .
More work needed to sort some shit out .
Had we scored it could have been a decent performance .
Essentially, you can't lose 2 of your most productive performers and not expect to endure a period of readjustment. That's what happened last year and will probably happen again now, although probably not to the same horrible extent as last season because we already have some decent replacements in.
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Originally Posted by Alpha
nice observations
We had 57 crosses?! What game was she watching?
Steve Bould making a diffrence already :bow: Bould.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alpha
Meh. If it was uncomfortable on the pitch in that hwat as it was on the sidelines, i'm not suprised by the result. It was too hot to play pacey shit, which is where we lacked. Needed more speed in our play. Got the chance we needed, but the new boy fluffed his lines.
On we go.
Spurs losing to Newcastle might make the day painless . They are 2-1 down with 1 min remaining . Come one newcastle . Beat the fucking scums .
Our fullbacks really did nothing to help out Gerv and Theo, you can't expect them to beat 2/3 players every time they touch the ball. No overlapping runs, those two just provided nothing in the attack.
When you have the ball that much, your fullbacks gotta be able to contribute, or at least, be able to free up some space, for the wide players .
Excellent day, atmosphere was great, things went well as expected............and then Arsenal kicked off and it was all downhill from there.
Wait, i lie. It was all downhill when it was mentioned in the programme that Mo Farah couldnt be there due to Sponsorship shit. Other Olympians were there who support Arsenal including a bronze medal winner but no idea who they were. We were all there for Mo and once he didnt turn up, the crowd felt deflated, the actual football wasnt important.
But as this is a football forum and not yet call Moweb then i guess il post my views on the football.
Today was supposed to be the first day of the season. Not for us Arsenal fans. Today was just a continuation of the same old shit from the last few seasons. Theres no point having a summer break cos we learn nothing new. We can have Ronaldo, Messi, get Baresi and Maldini 15 years younger and playing for us, Pele up top and nothing will change until we get rid of the football style we play. Its awful. Go back to 4-4-2. Its what we won all those trophies with. 4-3-3/4-5-1 has been an utter failure. We have absolutely no creativity or goal threat at all. It was a terrible game to watch and the awful weather to it and no Mo then all in all it was a horrific day. Could only get worse if Wenger decided to do a strip tease in the middle of the pitch. Thankfully he didnt.
Keeper and defence were fine. I say fint but they had f all to do. Can remember Sir Ches making one save early on and after that, fuck knows. Mertesacker was very good though. Best defender we had. Verm wasnt troubled either and got the best cheer of the day. Already our best captain since Vieira imho. Impressed by Jenkinson today defensively. A bit shit offensively but that isnt his priority. After his car crash of a season last year, he started off well this. Long may it continue. Couple of dodgy moments for Gibbs but he was ok overall
Now we come to the biggest problem in the team, midfield. Diaby was Diaby. Need i say more? Arteta? Oh dear god, why cant he pass forward? so much talent going to waste with his millions and millions of side passes. We know he has the talent, we've seen it at Everton but Wengeritis is doing its work well on him. He was shocking. Cazorla on the other hand, motm for me. Bright start and he actually shot from outside the area. Whether we coach that out of him remains to be seen but he looks good on the ball and he will get better.
Up front, Podolski was starved for chances due to the ineffectiveness of the midfield but like Santi, he'll get better cos he is quality. Giroud had the best chance of the game and fucked it up. No excuses, it was a bad miss. Nothing to do with getting used to the leagie or whatever. He fucked up. Bad start for him. Gervinho can go past players, has no end product, Theo is usually marked by 2 or 3 people so cant get past players but has the end product. Merge these 2 ****s and we'll have a decent player. Alas we cant so we continue to suffer with Gerv being a bit shit and Theo not played where he would be most effective.
Subs - Ramsey did more than Diaby did whole game as soon as he came on when he had a shot. Alreday mentioned Giroud and as for Arshavin, all the talent in the world. Get his head right and we have some player. Crowd are still with him. Only GW are not and GW arent exactly known for their footballing expertise with the tard on here after all.
All in all, 5 words sum up todays shocker
Different season, same old shit
I'd go with that. The performance wasn't great but it was fine. They look like the makings of a good side but they need to gel a bit. Sunderland came for a draw and got one. They did nothing up front, I can't remember Chesney making a save all game. The Spanish midfielder dude looks good. Gervinho looked dangerous, Walcott did nothing of note. Diaby was excellent. Defensively we looked pretty solid. Need to find a cutting edge but I think we'll get there. It does look like we'll do no better than 4th but that's much as I expected pre-season and wouldn't be a disasterous outcome.Quote:
Originally Posted by Boss
Sounds familiar. So he's literally valueless then? Imagine how the human race would have fared on a fuck with no end product. Nice while it lasted but extinction imminent. Same goes for this guy, will be interesting to see how long he can ride on the hope of the fans. All I know, that swimmer bloke from the States who won 18 gold medals, or whatever silly amount it is, had an end product.Quote:
Gervinho was good with everything apart from his final ball
:haha:Quote:
Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn
the way we play summed up by one player? Barca-lite?
:lol:Quote:
Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn
:hug:
I've missed you.
No homo.
Let the gays take over the world and thats what we'd have tbh. A human race with no end product (babies)Quote:
Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn
Pretty much except they have a Messi.Quote:
Originally Posted by gooners
We have Gervinho
We're fucked
I'd like to add that Chris Foy was a fucking arsehole. He was giving Sunderland FK's like they were going out of fashion.
One time in the first half when gerv ran into the box and went past 2 players and ran into a 3rd, one of the Sunderland players fell over behind diaby and foy gave them a FK.
Same old fuckin shit.
So you admit Messi is awlsome then?Quote:
Originally Posted by Ach
Still the master baiter I see.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ach
ThisQuote:
Originally Posted by Jeebus
As much as we supported him over the Olympics, he was shocking today
oh no! what have you done?Quote:
Originally Posted by Master Splinter
Messi is the best in the world at what he does...Quote:
Originally Posted by Master Splinter
Exactly.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ach
He does football and is the best at it, even if it is drug-aided.
Ronaldo :haha:.
Apparently the booing at the end was aimed at foy and his assistants, not the club.
Yes, because Foy is almost solely responsible for what's been going on at Arsenal. About time somebody outed him.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jeebus
Yeah Wenger out.Quote:
Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn
Awful result. Giroud to blame - he has to put them away.
I must admit gervinho did an absoutely marvellous job of running past players and fucking up when it mattered. Absolutely marvellous job.
Diaby was no good. Walcott and Gervinho were no good. Need players with a bit more natural ability. Hope oxlade's fine.
Clean sheet though. That's new.
Wengers commentsQuote:
on a frustrating result...
We played with a good spirit. We were serious, we put the effort in. Our basic fitness is alright but we lack sharpness and fluency at the moment to be dangerous in the final third. The few chances we had, we couldn't convert them. Sunderland always play the same way against us, in the final third and defensively, and if you're not sharp enough to make the difference early in the game it becomes difficult. They defended well, they defended the whole game very well, and we lacked something - sharpness and also quality and accuracy in the final pass.
on bedding in new players...
Of course [that makes a difference too]. The formula didn't work with three strikers up front and we were not well balanced, we didn't create enough because they blocked our midfield. After that it was difficult for us. We need to be more creative in the final third.
on Santi Cazorla...
I think it's difficult not to be pleased with him because he played on Wednesday night, the whole game in Puerto Rico. All the chances were created by him, basically.
on why the Club agreed terms to sell Song...
Because we have Wilshere coming back, I believe in one and a half months. We have Diaby back, we have Rosicky not far away and we might bring another midfielder in as well. You have to be patient a little bit [over any new signings].
on players leaving at their peak...
It is frustrating, we have learnt to deal with that. I believe as well that the financial potential of some clubs is massive and that makes a difference.
on replacing Robin van Persie's goals...
Maybe people are right [that he would have made a difference], maybe they are wrong - you can never check that. We have played some draws at home with Van Persie, we have lost some games with Van Persie as well. It's true that last year in every game he found something special. I never denied that we lost a world-class player, that is very difficult to replace.
I feel that Podolski is not [physically] ready yet but he has the quality, and Giroud you could see has a presence when he is on the pitch in this position. Man United looked everywhere, if they didn't buy anybody else and went for Van Persie at 29 years of age, it's because they realised that quality is difficult to find on the market.
on Giroud's chance...
Giroud had a great chance on his right foot. I think he had more time than he thought and we expected him to score that one, of course.
on getting the balance right up front...
In some games it works, in some not. We went for a different formula last year and the balance is not always right, but in this game today we needed maybe one more creative player to be a bit more accurate in the final third. There was not a lot of space left to our strikers, everything had to be created from our midfield.
on whether Song asked to leave...
He expressed a desire to go to Barcelona.
on a missed opportunity against Sunderland...
Of course. It is always frustrating in the game when you have so much possession and so little points. You have to calculate that you make a draw or two or three during a season, but you don't want to make it at the start in the first game. I personally prefer to play away in the first game.
on showing patience after Van Persie's departure...
I feel that when you are on the football pitch, you don't think about the players who are not there. You try to make a good pass when you have the ball, all the rest is not a valid excuse. We had the opportunity to play the ball quicker, our overall passing was not quick enough today in my opinion. That is not necessarily linked with Robin.
on Nicklas Bendtner...
He is likely to move, yes. There is no deal done at all.
We should hire a referee. It's worked wonders for ManUre, they have Webb and Clatterman batenburg.Quote:
Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn
Here is my take. . .(for what its worth)
We should be beating the likes of Sunderland at home but didnt really do enough at thw end of the day, we still have no idea on how to break 10 man defences down and I agree with Charlie, the media are going to have a field day over Girourds miss, I would have played him from the begimning, have him compete for crosses because in such matches we need to by pass the middle
Santi was goos but should have played further forward, would it not have been better to play two up top
Invincibles 2012 - unbeaten! :scarf:
We should have played Giroud and Pod from the start with Cazorla behind them.
Sunderland are shit yet we played right in to their hands by playing one upfront.
There was hardly any pressure from us. It was all in front of them and they had it easy. Hardly any crosses were put in. It wa a shocking opening game display from us
Why did pod come off for Giroud? We needed a goal so put 2 upfront for the closing stages but we went like for like and nothing changed.
Same old shit
We'll finish top 4 no doubt and Wenger will feel justified as will his minions. The majority have had enough of the shit football though
If we had played 2 up front with 4 in midfield, we'd be talking about how shit our midfield is and how we didn't even get anywhere near creating anything in the final third instead of complaining about why only 3 out of 22 chances where on target. Even Roy Hodgson's finally coming to terms with the idea that 4-4-2 is dead.
3-5-2 on the other hand...
Also, those complaining about our full backs not doing enough in attack? That's part of why we seemed relatively solid defensively today, and even then Gervinho and Walcott both bailed them out once or twice yesterday. Unless you have world class fullbacks who create goal scoring opportunities every time they go up, you can't have it both ways.
Who said 4-4-2 is dead? Guess what formation Man City played most of their games last season? Guess who won the PL?Quote:
Originally Posted by AKBapologist
Not saying we go balls out when we play tough teams like City, Utd, Chelsea away.. we need to play 4-4-2 for shit kickers like Sunderland, West Brom, Norwich etc. In fact, once we have those c*nts pegged back in their half, we just go 3-0-7!