made that donkey torres look like a world beater :haha: :haha:
only us. what an embarrassment :haha:
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made that donkey torres look like a world beater :haha: :haha:
only us. what an embarrassment :haha:
Dont you have sky sports?Quote:
Originally Posted by Charlie the Gooner
Nah i just think today reminded us where we are.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wiltord's Winner
Yeah, but switched over.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ach
http://i.imgur.com/PEwmv.jpg
I'm off.
GW is more embarrassing than anything that might have happened on the pitch today.
Only surprise is Mikel who never scores didnt score today as wellQuote:
Originally Posted by Wiltord's Winner
We have a habit of having players who do f all score v us
Fletcher, Park etc for Mancs
Torres for Chelsea.
If a player is off form then no doubt their manager wants to play us asap
Torres FFL points :bow:
Yeah. He isn't a Wilshere or a Diaby and I suppose Wenger knows that. Unfortunately today we had the option of him or Chamberlain in CM (no Coquelin on the bench) and both unbalance things if played with Cazorla. Ramsey was having a good game in the 'wider' role before that. He can still be a good player for Arsenal as long as people know his role.Quote:
Originally Posted by milla
Has Wenger ever beaten RDM?
The kneejerking on here is terrible.
We were fairly evenly matched, Chelsea created nothing apart from their two goals, both of which were down to poor defending to be fair. Perhaps we should have kept Mertesacker in the side but that's the only mistake I can see from Wenger. Despite us being relatively poor we still created enough to at least draw the game, Giroud should have done better with his chance as should have Cazorla (IIRC).
Jenkinson and Chamberlain look a good partnership down that side, we would have done better if Diaby wasn't his usual glass self.
On to the next one.
Perhaps but I don't really like playing players out of position. Out wide we want a bit more of an attacking/creative threat, and Ramsey just seems uncomfortable. A couple of times he could have gotten away done the right but his lack of pace meant he had to check back and the momentum was lost.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dennis Bendtner
TBH the same can be said about Podolski, although I understand Wenger playing him on the left as he plays that role for Germany as well. He's not really been involved much in the last 2 games, and I think he'd be better suited up top.
maybe, but they came here for the draw and we played like we just had to turn up in order to win. our passing was atrocious today, we tried passing the ball in front of the player so he can run onto it but we just kept giving the ball away.Quote:
Originally Posted by Charlie the Gooner
The biggest issue we have is that we create so many chances yet as soon as we get near the 12 yard box we become clueless. Thats where RVP was so good for us, his movement in that area of the pitch was world class.(he is stilla **** mind but this is for analysis purposes).
Now Grioud has excellent movement to, but he is so tensed up he keeps fluffing his lines. I see quality in him, but we need it now so unfairly he will not be given the time to settle.
Gervhinio is not Henry, nor is he a player who can be converted into a striker. He has the touch of molester, and the finishing ability of a priest.
I have no idea why Mert was dropped, his reading and orgainsing of the back four has been class, not to mention his ability in the air. Torres won a truck load of headers today.
Ramsey is a player who is yet to find his true position in the team. He is a great player, but he has confidence issues and needs time to mature. That **** from stoke really fcuked this kids development/mentality up.
However the biggest problem we have by far is Wenger. He rarely balances the team, makes awful awful tactical decisions, and his sub routine is naive, silly and at worst negligent.
We showed great promise so far this season but Wenger will do his best to fuck it up as he has done so for the last 7 seasons. He cant help it.
Same ol Arsenal , losing gallantly. Another season starting to look like the one before and before.....
we made mikel look like zidane. how much time did he have every time he got the ball?Quote:
Originally Posted by Ach
but shush dont say anything, its all an overreaction :haha:
cant critise wenger for bad decisions or players for not turning up :haha:
How by beating the saints 6-1 or beating a poor pool side?Quote:
Originally Posted by gunnerrrrr
He can be a good player for Arsenal? I mean if he is some fekin foreign born player he would be crucified now. He is shit, he is no good in CM no pace in wide area. Wenger should send Ramsey to Sao Paulo and let him play with Denilson. :coffee:Quote:
Originally Posted by Dennis Bendtner
Look where both these teams are in the league.Quote:
Originally Posted by Charlie the Gooner
People calling it knee jerking are funnyQuote:
Originally Posted by Wiltord's Winner
Its the same shit we have seen season in and out for years. How is that knee jerking?
Our brief blip of good form is over. We are back to normal
who.Quote:
Originally Posted by gunnerrrrr
Very simple game, Chelsea weren't better than Arsenal on any level really, it's just Arsenal is missing those one or two special players in the attack.
A game like this, RVP, Cesc, Henry, Pires, would've created something out of nothing, but we don't have that
agree.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ach
how the fuck is this knee jerking?
ffs we have sold all are best players, won fuck all since 2005, now pay the most for season tickets and match day tickets etc etc Would it be too much to ask for to see some progression and ambition, or how about some return on the promises made about bringing in quality players, trophies etc
the two teams you mentioned...saints and liverpoolQuote:
Originally Posted by Charlie the Gooner
I thought the "Robin van Persie, he reckons your shit" chant was funny. :ninja:
My issue is the idea of him being 'out of position'. All evidence suggests to me he isn't. But yes, I can understand the preference and thought with Walcott's record against Cole he might start. Guess not. I think it was to try and keep a hold on Chelsea's attacking midfield three. But when he moved inside was when Arsenal started playing with no cohesion or direction. Even worse when Chamberlain took that place.Quote:
Originally Posted by Joker
Podolski I don't think has the movement or pace to consistently play up front. I like his current role, but games like today are bound to happen.
This is the problem with not playing a more defensively minded player in the centre of midfield. Arteta's just quite well so far, but it would be better if we had a more aggressive player who'd close down the opposition when on the ball. Like mentioned before, Mikel had too much time to pick out forward passes. That's not the mention the space that Chelsea had on the counter attack, and if they were less sloppy they probably would have scored more on the break. This is where a conventional defensive midfielder would have come in handy, to prevent them turning defence into attack so effortlessly.
I thought it was "He left cos youre shit,"?Quote:
Originally Posted by Marc Overmars
Both are true tbh
Oh Yeah, how wasn't that Torres goal a foul, he was all over Kos.
the only bad thing today about jenkinson was that horrific dive. i hope someone gives him a fucking bollocking for it. was a disgrace
Maybe they did, and i thought we'd win till i saw the team we put out and how shite it looked apart from a few good players. We played against a chav side who bought quality in the summer and are going for the title.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wiltord's Winner
Does not matter who we drop etc. if you want to beat them you have to buy quality to match them, not hope we get lucky of some earlier good form.
Only 1 person said that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ach
No one had a good game, Gibbs showed promise. Our team is like Jesus, afraid of crosses.
What are you talking about, Mikel barely got the ball, and he certainly wasn't spraying passes around, both teams were craps, especially there's and our midfieldQuote:
Originally Posted by Joker
So yet we should not get happy because we beat them or it was promising. We were always going to end up like this when we did not buy quality in the summer.Quote:
Originally Posted by gunnerrrrr
It's very simple, our attacking players while okay, simply aren't great, so yeah we'll beat up on the likes of Southampton, but we all know, we are gonna struggle for goals, against decent opposition this season.
There wasn't really much between the sides. We just reverted to our fucked up style of defending and that was the difference.
Should have taken a point but unfortunatley the chance fell to the last player right now you'd want on the end of it.
how on earth the team couldnt get up for a london derby against one of our biggest rivals is shocking.
walked onto the pitch as if we were playing charlton.
To be fair, I'd have no confidence in any of our current strikers finishing a chance like that when it really matters. No bottle.Quote:
Originally Posted by Marc Overmars
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Originally Posted by Wiltord's Winner
This game wasn't about effort or fight, they fought, it just wasn't their day. And talent on the pitch simply isn't good enough to beat a Chelsea side that played pretty well defensively
mannone needs extra training, the second goal especially, he just stood there. it barely touched kos, not enough to deviate massively of its path yet he shoudl have saved it.
Oh dearQuote:
Originally Posted by ollie the optimist