Match Reaction Vs Norwich

We see this every season, somehow, somehow the manager convince people things have changed, he's turned the corner, he see's the problem, it holds up for a bit of the season then eventually reality sets in we lose games and people realise nothing has changed.

Then we win a few games at the tail end of the season, summer comes and goes and the same cycle begins again, it'll be the same next season and the season after that.

Wenger doesn't have it in him to win stuff anymore, he's just a vital cog in the Bank of Arsenal. Football isn't about winning on the pitch at Arsenal, it's about winning off it and Wenger does a great job on that score.

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Originally Posted by ItsMe

We see this every season, somehow, somehow the manager convince people things have changed, he's turned the corner, he see's the problem, it holds up for a bit of the season then eventually reality sets in we lose games and people realise nothing has changed.

Then we win a few games at the tail end of the season, summer comes and goes and the same cycle begins again, it'll be the same next season and the season after that.

Wenger doesn't have it in him to win stuff anymore, he's just a vital cog in the Bank of Arsenal. Football isn't about winning on the pitch at Arsenal, it's about winning off it and Wenger does a great job on that score.

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Well blame the people who employ him then. But lets be honest we were never going towin the league anyways.

Fuck it lets go for the cups might as well not even sure we will get 4th this season.

This season got off to such a positive start. I missed every game. What a fuck up it is now though, I've watched three in a row and have no expectation of missing the match on Wednesday.

Anyway, I'm sticking by the team through thin and thin.

Has the c*nt given his post match reaction yet? Cant wait to hear the handbrake BS

that was fucking diabolical.

our lack of depth is hitting us and its only october. its going to be a long season. when you're relying on someone who's just turned 17 to change the game then you know you have problems.

chelsea invested sufficiently to improve their squad over the summer and they're in debt. we on the other hand have money sitting in the bank and refuse to buy. in fact, not only do we refuse to buy, we sell our best players to our rivals. where does this end? when will it end?

mannone plays well for a couple of weeks then fucks something up as usual. gervinho doesnt know if he's in africa or mars. giroud is starting to test my patience. then again i dont know what i was expecting, i mean we didnt replace song, we relied on diaby who has managed a handful of games in the past decade, we have players that get injured when they shoot or overstretch for a ball.

we're gonna stroll into 4th with fuck all to show at the end of it.

again.

absolutely useless.

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Originally Posted by fakeyank

Has the c*nt given his post match reaction yet? Cant wait to hear the handbrake BS

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Don't forget about the little bit of sharpness.

Players should have their wages on the back of their shirts, the we could be shocked and amused and furious when we watched Gervinho attempting to play.

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Originally Posted by Charlie the Gooner

Well blame the people who employ him then.

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I do believe me, I can't stand them but ultimately the fans are also indirectly accountable, they put money into their pockets, allow them to get away with this and buy into the constant BS, without fans buying into this sh*t and paying to fill the stadium this wouldn't happen.

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Originally Posted by Wiltord's Winner

that was fucking diabolical.

our lack of depth is hitting us and its only october. its going to be a long season. when you're relying on someone who's just turned 17 to change the game then you know you have problems.

chelsea invested sufficiently to improve their squad over the summer and they're in debt. we on the other hand have money sitting in the bank and refuse to buy. in fact, not only do we refuse to buy, we sell our best players to our rivals. where does this end? when will it end?

mannone plays well for a couple of weeks then fucks something up as usual. gervinho doesnt know if he's in africa or mars. giroud is starting to test my patience. then again i dont know what i was expecting, i mean we didnt replace song, we relied on diaby who has managed a handful of games in the past decade, we have players that get injured when they shoot or overstretch for a ball.

we're gonna stroll into 4th with fuck all to show at the end of it.

again.

absolutely useless.

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Maybe not.

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Originally Posted by fakeyank

Has the c*nt given his post match reaction yet? Cant wait to hear the handbrake BS

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hope to god that senile c*nt leaves when his contract is up. cant bear another few seasons with him in charge.

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Originally Posted by ItsMe

I do believe me, I can't stand them but ultimately the fans are also indirectly accountable, they put money into their pockets, allow them to get away with this and buy into the constant BS, without fans buying into this sh*t and paying to fill the stadium this wouldn't happen.

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Yeah their all ****s AW included FY (Jk) lol. But i get what you mean.

Id love to go watch the boys but won't till they all piss off.

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Originally Posted by Wiltord's Winner

hope to god that senile c*nt leaves when his contract is up. cant bear another few seasons with him in charge.

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Leave PHW alone.

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Originally Posted by ItsMe

Wenger's just a vital cog in the Bank of Arsenal.

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:bow:

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Originally Posted by Charlie the Gooner

Maybe not.

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thats the worry.

we keep saying it but eventually our lack of investment will catch up.

chelsea are 10 points clear of us already. seeing as the title was decided on goal difference and 3rd was decided by a point, its worrying.

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Originally Posted by Charlie the Gooner

Yeah their all ****s AW included FY (Jk) lol. But i get what you mean.

Id love to go watch the boys but won't till they all piss off.

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How can you watch them if they have all pissed off?

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Originally Posted by Charlie the Gooner

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Your right the manager takes the blame on the pitch, but in the board room both share the blame.

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Every time youre on here trying to deflect from Wenger by blaming the board. Player for player we are so much better than Norwich. We lose because we always try and buy cheap. The main proponent of this is Wenger himself, he gets his rocks by being lauded for buying unknown gems and he compounds this by drilling them all in his unique spinelessness. IT becomes contagious. We can blame the players for leaving, it makes us feel betterm but I dont blame anyone who refuses to hang around for this shit. We could have bought Habdanovic 2 seasons ago for 10m, but no,,,,,that would be akin to buying success, something that Wenger hates witha a passion.

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Originally Posted by Wiltord's Winner

hope to god that senile c*nt leaves when his contract is up. cant bear another few seasons with him in charge.

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I'm expecting him to sign a new contract soon enough, he said he judges his own performance and that he'll leave if he feels he's not performing well enough however he always seem proud of his achievements so in his mind he's delivering a world class team who are not only the most entertaining but also highly successful.

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Originally Posted by fakeyank

What you talking about? Its all the board's fault.. I am sure there is some conspiracy theory going on and AW is actually the helpless goat with no power over the team.

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Come on, and can the wumming.

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BRILLIANT POST. 100% RIGHT. The board have nothing to do with this result. The squad out there should have beaten shit, bottom-of-the-table Norwich with their eyes closed. Its the manager responsiblity - end of. Also I totally agree about Wenger trying to make a name for himelf by discovering unknown players. For the first few years he discovered players and made them brilliant. The media wet themselves about it and it went to Wenger's head. He cant do it anymore; in fact he makes talented young players worse not better.

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Originally Posted by Globalgunner

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Every time youre on here trying to deflect from Wenger by blaming the board. Player for player we are so much better than Norwich. We lose because we always try and buy cheap. The main proponent of this is Wenger himself, he gets his rocks by being lauded for buying unknown gems and he compounds this by drilling them all in his unique spinelessness. IT becomes contagious. We can blame the players for leaving, it makes us feel betterm but I dont blame anyone who refuses to hang around for this shit. We could have bought Habdanovic 2 seasons ago for 10m, but no,,,,,that would be akin to buying success, something that Wenger hates witha a passion.

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Originally Posted by ItsMe

I do believe me, I can't stand them but ultimately the fans are also indirectly accountable, they put money into their pockets, allow them to get away with this and buy into the constant BS, without fans buying into this sh*t and paying to fill the stadium this wouldn't happen.

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i've said this before - you just do not get the mentally of fans who want to go to every game they can. you should try to go to watch football somewhere, anywhere, more often. it's not as simple as 'just don't go to the stadium'.

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Originally Posted by Wiltord's Winner

thats the worry.

we keep saying it but eventually our lack of investment will catch up.

chelsea are 10 points clear of us already. seeing as the title was decided on goal difference and 3rd was decided by a point, its worrying.

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We have no right to assume we will finish 4th. Like i said all that is happening is the result of not replacing quality with quality.

Yes Theo and Gerv will have 1 or 2 good games but we all know they will fade away for a few more. Giroud well he is settling in, Poldi started off well but looks to have faded.

Santi well it seems when he has a poor game the rest do.

We have a captain who has not been at his best for a while. A keeper who is not focused enough and worries more about twitter then playing, then we have a replacement who is not good enough then we have mannone who is worsre.

We have a midfield that is getting exposed because we have shite like ramsey and Diaby always being injured ffs wenger :doh:

Our defending has been better ok so some has been questionable, but Bould has made a diffrence.

Like you said in the other thread. Chavs strenghend and looks what happend. End of the day you reap what you so.

We buy in jan then we may get 4th we don't we probs won't and this won't be the last shock result.

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Originally Posted by Globalgunner

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Player for player we are so much better than Norwich. We lose because we always try and buy cheap.

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That doesn't make a hell of a lot of sense fella? If we're better player for player that indicates that the buying of players isn't the problem. The tactics (or lack of them) seemed to be the clear porblem today

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Originally Posted by Terry Tuffnutz

i've said this before - you just do not get the mentally of fans who want to go to every game they can. you should try to go to watch football somewhere, anywhere, more often. it's not as simple as 'just don't go to the stadium'.

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People also dont realise that there is huge support for Arsenal all over the world -not just Africa but China, the South East Asian countries and eastern Europe. An increasing number of people from abroad come to the Emirates without giving a shit if we lost the last match to Norwich.

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Originally Posted by Terry Tuffnutz

i've said this before - you just do not get the mentally of fans who want to go to every game they can. you should try to go to watch football somewhere, anywhere, more often. it's not as simple as 'just don't go to the stadium'.

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Originally Posted by Globalgunner

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Every time youre on here trying to deflect from Wenger by blaming the board. Player for player we are so much better than Norwich. We lose because we always try and buy cheap. The main proponent of this is Wenger himself, he gets his rocks by being lauded for buying unknown gems and he compounds this by drilling them all in his unique spinelessness. IT becomes contagious. We can blame the players for leaving, it makes us feel betterm but I dont blame anyone who refuses to hang around for this shit. We could have bought Habdanovic 2 seasons ago for 10m, but no,,,,,that would be akin to buying success, something that Wenger hates witha a passion.

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Show me 10 times where i have done that. End off the day Its the manager on the field he takes the blame and maybe buying players too.

Can he go and tell the shareholders to sell to he russian or the americans maybe he can and i'm missing something.

But lets blame it all on wenger and nothing on the board i mean they are not happy with whats going on and are unhappy too they just keep the guy in employment for some reason.

I have never blamed the board only and said its not Wengers fault.

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We could have bought Habdanovic 2 seasons ago for 10m, but no,,,,,that would be akin to buying success, something that Wenger hates witha a passion.

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And Stick him on the bench. I mean its clear Ches was AW's no1.

Look, they are all complicit in this and Wenger is well rewarded for his complicity.

Come back international break, all is forgiven.

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Originally Posted by Terry Tuffnutz

i've said this before - you just do not get the mentally of fans who want to go to every game they can. you should try to go to watch football somewhere, anywhere, more often. it's not as simple as 'just don't go to the stadium'.

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Other clubs fans don't seem to have a problem making their views known and acting to change things. At the end of the day if people are happy to accept whatever is served up then don't ever expect anything to change.

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Originally Posted by Marc Overmars

Come back US Open Tennis all is forgiven.

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A month of tennis would do.

Come on Muzza.

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Originally Posted by Seaman's Ponytail

That doesn't make a hell of a lot of sense fella? If we're better player for player that indicates that the buying of players isn't the problem. The tactics (or lack of them) seemed to be the clear porblem today

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. It only doesnt make sense becuse you wont think about it. Every one of our players is an international of some sort mostly playing for top ten ranked international teams. To held your thinking, ask yourself which player in the Norwich team would you rather have than the Arenal equivalent playing today, Maybe the keeper Ruddy or 1 more, who else?

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Originally Posted by Globalgunner

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Every time youre on here trying to deflect from Wenger by blaming the board. Player for player we are so much better than Norwich. We lose because we always try and buy cheap. The main proponent of this is Wenger himself, he gets his rocks by being lauded for buying unknown gems and he compounds this by drilling them all in his unique spinelessness. IT becomes contagious. We can blame the players for leaving, it makes us feel betterm but I dont blame anyone who refuses to hang around for this shit. We could have bought Habdanovic 2 seasons ago for 10m, but no,,,,,that would be akin to buying success, something that Wenger hates witha a passion.

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bang on.

it was only the other day i heard him say he wont apply for an emergency keeper even though chez is out for months (everyone knows it he just doesnt want to admit it cause he knows he fucked up in the summer by not buying a back up) and fabianski's out for the season. we're relying on our third choice keeper to get us through the season. so if he gets injured we're fucked.

thats not good enough for a team aiming to win trophies.

it all comes down to money, wenger clearly doesnt want to spend wages on a back up keeper even though its the sensible thing to do because he's a tight c*nt and wants to exhaust the profit maximisation model. why spend 50k a week on an experienced back up keeper when he can call up martinez from the reserves on 80p a week?

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Originally Posted by Globalgunner

. It only doesnt make sense becuse you wont think about it. Every one of our players is an international of some sort mostly playing for top ten ranked international teams. To held your thinking, ask yourself which player in the Norwich team would you rather have than the Arenal equivalent playing today, Maybe the keeper Ruddy or 1 more, who else?

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Which is why like the poster said its the tactics that are the problem not the players.

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Originally Posted by ItsMe

Other clubs fans don't seem to have a problem making their views known and acting to change things.

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what have man utd fans achieved? or chelsea fans upset about the voting system over buying back their club? liverpool fans, well they must be demented by now.

how many fans have stopped going to those stadiums? packed houses every week. i'm sure there have been many who have stopped on principle, like I have, but not many in comparison. there have been small demonstrations about Arsenal but really what do you expect? fans continue to go because they love the club. not the board, manager or players but the club. as jelgoon also rightly said, there are thousands of fans who can only get there once in a blue moon and worries about shares and power struggles are the last thing on their minds. they want to see their team win a football match.

going to a game isn't analytical or based on discussion its instinctive and not just something most people just turn on and off.

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Originally Posted by Wiltord's Winner

bang on.

it was only the other day i heard him say he wont apply for an emergency keeper even though chez is out for months (everyone knows it he just doesnt want to admit it cause he knows he fucked up in the summer by not buying a back up) and fabianski's out for the season. we're relying on our third choice keeper to get us through the season. so if he gets injured we're fucked.

thats not good enough for a team aiming to win trophies.

it all comes down to money, wenger clearly doesnt want to spend wages on a back up keeper even though its the sensible thing to do because he's a tight c*nt and wants to exhaust the profit maximisation model. why spend 50k a week on an experienced back up keeper when he can call up martinez from the reserves on 80p a week?

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Wenger is cheap, always has been always will be. In the old days when scouting networks weren't so developed it worked out well, nowadays though it rarely does.

You get what you pay for at the end of the day.

Dreadful.

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Originally Posted by Wiltord's Winner

bang on.

it was only the other day i heard him say he wont apply for an emergency keeper even though chez is out for months (everyone knows it he just doesnt want to admit it cause he knows he fucked up in the summer by not buying a back up) and fabianski's out for the season. we're relying on our third choice keeper to get us through the season. so if he gets injured we're fucked.

thats not good enough for a team aiming to win trophies.

it all comes down to money, wenger clearly doesnt want to spend wages on a back up keeper even though its the sensible thing to do because he's a tight c*nt and wants to exhaust the profit maximisation model. why spend 50k a week on an experienced back up keeper when he can call up martinez from the reserves on 80p a week?

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He is out for about 3 weeks is Fabianski who is out for months but i get your point.

I think Martinez from the reserves should be called up. It'll make no difference mind.

Next week's AGM will be interesting. The pro-Kroenke blogs (we all know which ones they are) will obviously be under instruction to underplay any discontent voiced but I expect Gazidis and co to get a proper grilling.

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Originally Posted by Charlie the Gooner

We have no right to assume we will finish 4th. Like i said all that is happening is the result of not replacing quality with quality.

Yes Theo and Gerv will have 1 or 2 good games but we all know they will fade away for a few more. Giroud well he is settling in, Poldi started off well but looks to have faded.

Santi well it seems when he has a poor game the rest do.

We have a captain who has not been at his best for a while. A keeper who is not focused enough and worries more about twitter then playing, then we have a replacement who is not good enough then we have mannone who is worsre.

We have a midfield that is getting exposed because we have shite like ramsey and Diaby always being injured ffs wenger :doh:

Our defending has been better ok so some has been questionable, but Bould has made a diffrence.

Like you said in the other thread. Chavs strenghend and looks what happend. End of the day you reap what you so.

We buy in jan then we may get 4th we don't we probs won't and this won't be the last shock result.

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some good points there charlie.

giroud needs a season just to get accustomed to the league so im not sure why people were expecting him to come in and set the league on fire.

we relied on diaby again, and once again, it backfired.

we have ramsey in the team, who dare i say, is more infuriating than freddy was in his last season with us. keeps losing the ball and running into dead ends. i mean chelsea replace meireles with oscar yet we persist with ramsey. they even trumped on sturridge by buying hazard and they're reaping the rewards. he looks unstoppable.