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Ay, but Brnovic - who made a fool of him - is 45? Stimac 45; AVB 35 - even the Daddy Mourinho is what, 50?Quote:
Originally Posted by GB.
Ferguson's genius is keeping inventive, and he does it by appointing the likes of the above. Woy and Wenger are outdated, because they do not.
What did Letters do when he met Ian Wright?!?
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Originally Posted by Master Splinter
Spunked himself speechless ...and then finally uttered "you're king of the world, you are!" :bow:
..then he just uncontrollably went off on a patrice :patrice:
Me :bow:
Accidentally nutted his testicles as he ran through his legs.Quote:
Originally Posted by Master Splinter
Stopped being a man :coffee:Quote:
Originally Posted by Master Splinter
Letters has ruined this thread with his fan boy ways.
Just read the whole thread. It seems we're all pretty much on the same page. In summary, Letters :haha:
Yes, eat ALL of our shirts.
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Originally Posted by LDG
I spilled my drink reading this!! :haha:
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Originally Posted by fakeyank
I don't care that much these days, simply because the quality of the game, is just low across the world of football, no matter the league.
Football has always be kinda predictable, just like everything else in general life. But I watch for the entertainment, and i'm just not entertained by the game at the moment. I see very highly functional players, but nothing great, or spectacular. Just a bunch mehs, and hehs.
cant help but feel the reason why we're all so disillusioned with football is because our club is down in the dumps. do man utd fans complain about modern day football? or city? or chelsea? if we were winning trophies and still at the top then i think we'd be far more happy about the state of 'modern' football.
We are depressed as Arsenal fans. the real cause of depression is the lack of hope. the sure fire knowledge that next year is going to be exactly like this year as it was the last year and the last 6 years. What kills the human spirit more than anything, is the absence of hope.
Another thing that makes me hate football now is seeing a distinctly average Man United who could be schooled in football by a middling team like Espanyol or Sevilla. Practically walk to the title with no effort at all. They will probably win 7 of the remaining 9 games and take the title with a record points haul. I just cant wait for Mourinho to rock up back at Chelsea. He will certainly be the one to finally send SAF into retirement. Odious little twat that he is (Mourinho ).
On a positive note however the CL is back....tasty football, better than anything else served up on the planet. Now that United is out of it I can sit back and enjoy.
missing out on the champions league will be the final nail in the coffin. those mouth watering ties even though we have no hope of winning them.
the transition from top elite to mediocre bum boys will be complete.
It's a factor but certainly not the only one. Lots of other changes in the game have made it a lot worse as a sport.Quote:
Originally Posted by She Wore A Yellow Ribbon
Agreed in one respect, we were spoiled watching players like Bergkamp, Pires, Henry, Wright and we were spoiled by the superb, powerful and direct style of play. Today, it's boring shit. Not just us. That Utd Chav game was depressing. "Superstars" who can't pass a ball 5 yards.Quote:
Originally Posted by She Wore A Yellow Ribbon
I used to watch all kinds of football. La Liga, Serie A, Super Sundays, Monday night football, Saturday lunch time, CL football regardless of who played but now I only watch if Arsenal play and even that is nowhere near as much as I used to. For example, the recent NLD humiliation was the first NLD I watched since they beat us 3-2 at the Emirates coming from 2 down. Didn't watch any of the 5-2 matches.Quote:
Originally Posted by She Wore A Yellow Ribbon
Football is dying as a whole, not just Arsenal wise.
When we have scum like Barca being lauded as the best around and Stoke football being praised, you can see what's wrong
For me this is a big part, I personally think our football is as dull as dishwater, I don't really particularly like most of our players, everything is too predictable and we have a manager that basically will never change.Quote:
Originally Posted by She Wore A Yellow Ribbon
Sure football has changed, but if we were an exciting team with quality players and more unpredictable I'd be much more likely to watch.
It seems like the quality is going down but the hype is at an all-time high. You know the quality is falling short when the Brazil team are struggling. They used to be dripping with talent but now there isn’t even one big star taking the world by storm. I miss that about the game. Because we have these super teams are steroids you rarely see an individual that’s really having to play out of his skin. Too many teams and leagues have nose-dived. The Italian league has fallen off, the Dutch league is terrible, Germany has only just started to make a come back….it’s not what it used to be. There used to be a host of stars scattered around the world but that just isn’t the case anymore.
The hype is an important factor in the decline of the game. It gets tired. Watching so-called super stars being very, very ordinary. Dull.
I lost interest a long time ago too in finishing 4th, but its now become one of simple practicality, thats all there is too it:
1) We need to pay off the stadium debt asap - CL footie increases the revenue
2) We need to keep Jack Wilshere for as long as possible - CL footie should be the bare minimum for a player like him
3) We need to attract good players - CL footie retains some attraction
4) We need to lay a foundation for the next manager - so he can have something to work with
So debt, Wilshere, attraction, foundation. DWAF. Thats where we are after almost a decade of no progress, bar 2 finals and the odd rare title challenge unfortunately, just trying to stop it from becoming worse rather than moving forward at the moment.
The football holds little interest while we are in this long-term state, because in reality we all seem to be in a long term wait for the next manager. AW has basically become the caretaker manager for now, keeping things ticking along before we can move to the next level again.
Theres no guarantee that a new manager will be successful, but its hard to deny that a change/refresh, some new ideas in terms of tactics, motivation, defensive organisation all over the pitch has been needed for some time. I don't know how many more times I can take seeing oppo players sprinting though our middle or having acres of space to dribble/pick out passes with no one closing them down as a team, covering spaces and working together to press. Remember Wilshere at Chelsea closing down with his arms wide asking for help, and no one could be bothered? Remember Rooney sprinting through the middle and Denilson casually jogging back? Its been happening for years and its still happening. It happened yesterday as well against West Brom.
As awful as it is to admit it, and even though he has lucked out on Bale who has won many games on his own this season, its the difference between Redknapp and AVB, who seems to have learnt his lesson from the arrogance and trying to change things too quickly, upsetting the old boys club at Chelsea (although they have their share of the blame as well).
Gallas admitted in an interview that Redknapp was very attack minded, and AVB was more tactical, studying the opponents more closely and reflecting it on the training pitch. It seems to be working for now at least, thats the type of change I'm talking about.
where are we? nowhere. a big shiny stadium with fuck all to show for it.
this is not the club i grew up loving.
Yeah I don't think people should be criticised when they say they can't get excited about us finishing 4th. Yes, getting one over Tottenham does mean something, but in the wider scheme of things it just highlights how far we have fallen that all we have to look forward to every season is St Totteringham's Day. The football on display has been distinctly mediocre as well, while in the past, even though we made horrendous cock-ups defensively and faded as the season reached its climax, there was still some outstanding football to look forward too (07-08 and 09-10 are the best examples). This season, we are predictably out of all cup competitions before April but also our football is pretty boring as well. Watching us resorting to hoof the ball forward against WBA was painful. I know we had 10 men, but Arsenal teams of 8 years ago would show much more composure, but I guess this is what happens when you sell of all the players with winning mentalities.