Time for Bony to come home tbh.
Time for Bony to come home tbh.
My Little Bony :bow:
Very good addition to the squad he would make....
keeper out = Fabs (free)
keeper in = Marshall (10 mill)
Defenders out = Sagna (free), Monreal (5 mill) Vermaelen ( 10 mill )
Defenders in = Piszczek (15 mill ), Felipe Luiz (10 mill ) Varane ( 20 mill )
Midfielders out = Rosciky (5 mill), Podolski (10 mill), Arteta (10 mill), Cazorla (20 mill)
Midfieders in = Bender (20 mill), Di Maria (25 mill), Gustavo (25 mill), Draxler (30 mill)
Attackers out = Bendtner (can't give him away), Giroud (20 mill)
Attackers in = Reus (35 mill), Martinez (30 mil)
Net spend 140 mill
Sir Ches back up Marshall.
Piszchek back up Jenks ( i know!! )
Felipe Luiz " Gibbs
Merts " Varane
Kos
Gustavo " Bender ( or other way round ) - sometimes play both.
Di Maria " Drexler "
Walcott " Ox "
Ozil " Reus
Rambo " Wilshere
Martinez " Reus,Walcot,Sanogo also forward options.
Above based on 4-5-1 with Di Maria & Walcott playing wide of the 5. Could also look at 4-4-2 with Martinez & Reus up top. If we want to play defensive then 4-2-3-1 with Gustavo & Bender as the 2.
To have 10 quality midfielders may sound OTT but if you think of the injuries we continually get to key players in this area ie Ramsey, Wilshere, Walcot & the fact we are overplaying some of these players which may be the root cause of a lot of these injuries then I think we should be able to rotate the side to keep all happy.
With Wenger in charge we all know this is dreamland but IMO we do need a squad with that depth of quality to really maintain a challenge on all fronts.
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Football Manager. :bow:
No way man! I dont want that many changes to the team. I agree some of those names need to leave but you dont want a team of 11 new players.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dein-machine
But we only have 6 that looking at quality & age are ever going to be good enough to take us forward - Sir Ches, Kos, Ox, Walcot, Ozil, Rambo, maybe 7 if Jack starts growing up & stops falling over. we can't waste more years slowly getting rid of the dross, we've been doing that for far too long now. Big changes neccessary, we've been doing the tinkering & its gets us nowhere because in between the tinkering we've had better quality players leave us.Quote:
Originally Posted by fakeyank
Yes - we need oneQuote:
Originally Posted by Marc Overmars
I'd add Per and Gibbs to that list too. If Sagna is to leave (which looks likely) then I would keep a hold of Vermaelen as back up CB or as LB. Similarly, I see nothing wrong with Rosicky either. And I rate Cazorla a LOT! I think he is a fantastic player and has been one of the most consistent players since his arrival. I would also keep Podolski as he pretty Lethal infront of goal. Then add to the mix one of my favorite players, Gnabry and we look good.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dein-machine
These are the players I want IN v/s players going out:
OUT: Bendnter, Sanogo, Park, Arteta, Sagna, Flappy
IN: Bender, Remy, Athletico madrid striker (whoever that may be), Piszczek for RB
Players I'm on the fence about: Monreal, Flamini, Giroud. Regarding Giroud, I'd rather have him than not have him. He has scored 21 goals + counting and that is no mean feat tbh.
Isn't all this rather pointless?
Pretty much all debate on GW is pointless tbh. The only reasonable thread is the Cool Video threadQuote:
Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory
To an extent but we might as well be discussing Fantasy Football teams in here.
:haha:Quote:
Originally Posted by Dein-machine
^^^
Love your signature :lol:
Very much playing champ manager but it is nice to dream. Some light healthy-unhealthy respite....
Out:
Flappy (n/a)
Vermaelen (7 million)
Bendtner (n/a)
In:
Stekelenburg (5 million)
Matthias Ginter (6 million)
Eliaquim Mangala (8 million)
Yann M'vila (10 million)
Loic Remy (Free transfer?)
Josip Drmic (5 million)
Julian Draxler (40 million)
74 million. The next would be 67 million. Still enough money to go crazy on 1 additional signing....perhaps the fabled world class forward that I'm missing?
I think we should offer Sagna what he wants and try and get Podolski to re-sign too imo. Vermaelen I'd prefer to keep but it's 50/50 as he would need to take a step down so he might not find a club he wants to join.
The ins add a little pace and finesse in attack with two potential centre forwards there too....even if they aren't both obvious choices with Draxler being the second. Remy, Draxler, Walcott, Chamberlain and Gnabry and possibly Cazorla could cover the wings so we're not likely to suffer as badly again in Theo's absence.
Wenger says it will be hard to sign players because of the world cup.
I wonder what his excuse was last season?
Scz
Casillas
A.N. Other
Sagna (Sign him up)
Jenkinson
Mert
Kosc
Verm
Caulker
Gibbs
Chambers
Flamini
Ramsey
Wilshere
Ozil
Cazorla
Rosicky
Fabregas
Walcott
The Ox
Pod
Giroud
Remy
Costa
Joel Campbell
Cya Arteta and Monreal
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Originally Posted by AFC Leveller
Wasn't last season the one with the "waiting period"? Or was that the season before? They're so painfully similar you end up getting confused. :lol:
Also @Blink, Mangala has a whopping £30 million price tag attached to his head and Man City pretty much have that deal sewn up already. They tried right at the end of the January window to get him and Fernando but were rebuffed. I'd actually post nudes of myself on here if we sign him.
Greizeeman, big black strong but technically good DM and a world class striker please.
OK, fantasy football time then...
Working on the premise(s) that we're sticking with 433 and that we need at least decent option for every position (with a few additional utility players here and there for added depth), then I think we need:
1x CF
Costa / Benzema / Cavani / Martinez / Mandzukic / Bony / Benteke / Lukaku / Morata / Michy
1x Wide striker or 1x direct winger (but ideally both)
wide strikers: Pedro / Remy / Drmic / Vela / Campbell
wingers: Griezmann / Draxler / Di Maria / Sanchez / Konoplyanka / Shaqiri
1x DCM (this can maybe wait another year, but its something we need to think about soon, and might as well do it now if the right player is there)
Pogba / Bender / Schneiderlin / Wanyama / Gustavo
1x RB (if Sagna leaves)
Aurier / Colman / Chambers / Janmaat / Richards / Junge
1/2x CBs (depending on whether Vermaelen stays)
Ginter / Veltman / Laporte / Hangeland(?) / (I really have lost touch with who the decent / available CBs are out there)
1x GK (if Fabianski leaves)
Casillas / Stekelenburg / Schmeichel / Marshall /
Bonus, total-fantasy, never-gonna-happen signing
Bring Fabregas and his Arsenal DNA home!
So there you go - anywhere between 3 and 8/9 players, depending on who stays and who goes, and whether there's enough time / money / available options to go for bonus signings.
There's a range of different players there at different prices, ranging from £50-60m+ to free - feel free to add more (or cross any off that are completely stupid - I've just stuck in players I've heard mentioned recently). Assuming we're working to a finite budget, then we won't be able to pick the most expensive name on each list (i.e. if we spank £40/50/60m on someone like Cavani or Benzema, then it's unlikely that we'll blow another £40m on a Draxleror a Di Maria), so it's all about getting the best balance for what we have, and getting more of the qualities that we lack into the team somewhere, even if we have to do it more indirectly than we've been thinking (e.g. we're all looking at the CF as being the signing that solves all of our problems, but if the awesome CF that we want isn't available, or doesn't want to sign for us, then can we work around it by getting, say, a world-class wide man instead, and getting someone a little further down our wish list as a CF?).
Get out of my fantasy dammit and tell beyonce I'm waiting.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Emirates Gallactico
Ok so scrap the Portu geezer and throw Williams in :lol:
I'm not on the fence when it comes to Monreal…there is a reason why teams attack our left hand side relentlessly when he plays! Very suspect player. 10million was a crazy amount for him. Cazorla has been off form for most of this season and very inconsistent. Poor season by his standards. Sanogo should get his chance before being ousted…looks raw but very decent in the games he's played. Arteta has been a great addition to our squad, I'd keep him for at least another season. I def agree with holding onto Podolski, really hope we manage to, the best is yet to come from him.Quote:
Originally Posted by fakeyank
Monreal is okay provided his opponent is in leg irons and staked to the pitch. He doesn't have the pace otherwise.
Not sure about Monreal or Sanogo. Both look a cut below the level for me. What is Wenger watching when he buys these drongos???Quote:
Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn
Saying that Sagan isn't all that. He can't cross, is not good at tracking back and sometimes (i.e. Chelsea, Liverpool, Citeh away), he's a liability. Good pace, great in the air, but surely we could get that somewhere without shelling out stupid money like someone's going to offer for Shaw in the next few months. OK he's a left back, but even Sagan can play there probably better than Shaw (latest overrated English kid)???
I really dont see the potential that others do in Sanogo, looks a million miles away from being anywhere near good enough for us. Terrible touch, no idea where the goal is. Should be loaned out for a couple of seasons and if he comes good then its a bonus.
If we sign a couple of forwards this summer (or a CF and goal-scoring winger), then I really don't think Sanogo's presence will be much of an issue...
Bring back Joel Campbell . He has significantly matured and has a good decision making, team player attitude , decent shot and can track back to help defender but still ignored by Wenger .
The young lad seems to have a winning mentality and does not look afraid of playing against big teams .
These are kind of players we should give more chance to integrate into our system .
Not sure what the issue is with his work permit but if Campbell can play for us then I don't see why he shouldn't be part of the squad next season.
Keep it down will you....if Wenger hears things like that it will give him excuse not to buy a strikerQuote:
Originally Posted by Marc Overmars
He has been granted a work permit before being sent on loan again to Greece . That is not the real issue .Quote:
Originally Posted by Marc Overmars
If you are expecting Wenger to buy a striker in a mould of Diego Costa , I am afraid you might be disappointed again . He will only buy a back up to Giroud . A player like Remy , Ba , Cisse or Bony can be considered . His main priority would be to get an attacking midfielder or a winger who can score goals .Someone like Julian Draxler , Antoine Griezmann etcQuote:
Originally Posted by Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie
Wenger still rate Giroud as his no 1 striker even though many would disagree . He is the man in charge and will decide .
To be honest i don't rate Diego Costa so i won't lose any sleep if he goes to Chelsea, to be honest anyone in the mould of a Remy or Bony for me is an massive improvement on Giroud. I don't expect anyone with a world class reputation to be honest, i just want someone with pace and a proven goalscoring record.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alpha
Wenger will definitely buy a back up striker as he saw the consequences when Giroud was exhausted . But for those who would like to see the back of Giroud , it may be too early .Quote:
Originally Posted by Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie
On the positive note , the other striker will put pressure on olivier not to be complacent and improve his game if he still wants to keep his place as no 1 striker .
We have cited Giroud being tired quite frequently but a lot of those times we were saying it, I just saw a limited player rather than one who was tired. Perhaps I'm being harsh on him.
Bony would be an improvement on Giroud as his all round game is much better, he is even more powerful than Giroud and is much better in the air.
The intermittently maligned Demba Ba would actually get 20 league goals or close to it given 38 league games in a top side which imo is why Wenger spent the dying hours of last summer trying to sign him. Unfortunately for us he was dealing with a club who's manager wouldn't sell him small pox or AIDS never mind an asset from his own club. One of the most naive pursuits in Wenger's career.
There are a small handful of strikers in my honest view that despite not being world class, would actually get 20 league goals given enough games. Sturridge is the most obvious of them but he isn't the ONLY one..... which is why it makes it even more of a crying shame we went into the season with Giroud, Sanoogo and Bendtner.
On Joe Campbell, he has certainly matured but I don't actually know that he offers us that Chamberlain or Gnabry won't apart from a few more South American tricks... For it to be worthwhile he has to likely to be of more or at least equal use to the Ox or Gnabry, both of whom can play in 2/3 positions.