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26-07-2014, 08:55 PM
She Wore A Yellow Ribbon

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Originally Posted by Bergkampwonderland10

A psychopath with a natural striking ability. If he's not going to be too costly and they want to take Joel Campbell on loan for a year as part of the fee..then it might be worth it.

We should be the ones asking for money.
27-07-2014, 07:46 AM
AFC Leveller

I know a lot of us are put off by Balotelli's mental issues but as a striker, he would be a beast for us. A lot of people (including Scousers and ex players) said Suarez was too mental and would be a huge liability after he bit Ivanovic but he went on to have the season of his life and single handedly took Liverpool back to the top. If Balotelli can be tamed by Wenger then we'd have a world class triker in our hands.
27-07-2014, 10:26 AM
Niall_Quinn

And if he can't we have a war zone for a dressing room and we're the centre of a media circus. It would be insanity to let this loser anywhere near the club.
27-07-2014, 10:29 AM
Gooner23

Over rated and not worth the baggage. Would rather give Campbell a shot.
27-07-2014, 12:22 PM
Syn

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Originally Posted by AFC Leveller

I know a lot of us are put off by Balotelli's mental issues but as a striker, he would be a beast for us. A lot of people (including Scousers and ex players) said Suarez was too mental and would be a huge liability after he bit Ivanovic but he went on to have the season of his life and single handedly took Liverpool back to the top. If Balotelli can be tamed by Wenger then we'd have a world class triker in our hands.

Suarez is a nutcase but he tends to channel his craziness into an obsession to win on the field. And he has meltdowns because he can't handle defeats (not just in terms of game result but also the individual battles). Balotelli is incredibly talented but his craziness isn't as constructive as Suarez. He becomes disinterested when he has lost the plot whereas Suarez is always busy and working for the team.

The only sympathy I have on that front is that I don't think anywhere he has been so far has had the right environment. Either in racist Italy or the Man City circus. Still he's 23 and has won 4 league titles and a champions league. If he's willing to accept reasonable wages and Milan accept a lower fee, I don't think he would be any more of a problem than Bendtner if things go tits up. And if they don't, we've got a top quality striker capable of scoring goals from chances that don't exist. Wenger doesn't seem keen though, which is fair enough. We've got our marquee forward anyway.
27-07-2014, 01:24 PM
Power n Glory

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Originally Posted by Syn

Suarez is a nutcase but he tends to channel his craziness into an obsession to win on the field. And he has meltdowns because he can't handle defeats (not just in terms of game result but also the individual battles). Balotelli is incredibly talented but his craziness isn't as constructive as Suarez. He becomes disinterested when he has lost the plot whereas Suarez is always busy and working for the team.

The only sympathy I have on that front is that I don't think anywhere he has been so far has had the right environment. Either in racist Italy or the Man City circus. Still he's 23 and has won 4 league titles and a champions league. If he's willing to accept reasonable wages and Milan accept a lower fee, I don't think he would be any more of a problem than Bendtner if things go tits up. And if they don't, we've got a top quality striker capable of scoring goals from chances that don't exist. Wenger doesn't seem keen though, which is fair enough. We've got our marquee forward anyway.

Sums up how I feel about the situation. Some good points made. A while back, I'd have said Wenger wouldn't be able to handle him but I now think he might be the right sort of manager. Militant dictators like Mourinho and Mancini tend to have massive public fallouts with their players. It's not just Balotelli. They never handle the situation well and often gets messy.

Wenger isn't that sort of manager and would talks a different approach to Mario. A more arm around the shoulders, encouragement and confidence. It could work. He's handled troublesome players in the past. Just look at Anelka. I think the highlight of that guys career still stems from his work with Arsene.

It's only a small fee so it may be worth the risk. But I doubt Wenger will because I have a feeling he's going to move Sanchez to the striker position once Theo is match ready.
27-07-2014, 02:38 PM
Power n Glory

http://www.theguardian.com/football/...all-racism-row

I mean...come on! I have no idea why Mario wants to stay in Italy or represent them. That's outrageous.
27-07-2014, 03:04 PM
Injury Time

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Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory

http://www.theguardian.com/football/...all-racism-row

I mean...come on! I have no idea why Mario wants to stay in Italy or represent them. That's outrageous.

Wow, just wow.
27-07-2014, 03:29 PM
Niall_Quinn

Amazing the trivia the media gets all hot and bothered about, compared to the massive real-world racism exploding in their faces which is studiously ignored. If somebody referred to an English player as a "chip eater" or a "roast beef" (a favourite with the French) then nobody would care.
27-07-2014, 03:41 PM
Power n Glory

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Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn

Amazing the trivia the media gets all hot and bothered about, compared to the massive real-world racism exploding in their faces which is studiously ignored. If somebody referred to an English player as a "chip eater" or a "roast beef" (a favourite with the French) then nobody would care.

Yes, I'm sure his comments are on the front page of every paper instead of what's happening in Gaza. :doh:
27-07-2014, 04:01 PM
Niall_Quinn

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Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory

Yes, I'm sure his comments are on the front page of every paper instead of what's happening in Gaza. :doh:

You keep framing everything in terms of what is printed. Try thinking about what isn't printed and why it isn't printed. Then you will be hot on the trail of racism.
27-07-2014, 04:35 PM
Power n Glory

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Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn

You keep framing everything in terms of what is printed. Try thinking about what isn't printed and why it isn't printed. Then you will be hot on the trail of racism.

We've got social media for the stuff mainstream media want to leave out, but that's another story.

I don't know why you're bringing this sort of argument to a football forum and linking it to current affairs. It's out of context. Shit, the next time you want to moan about Maureen, the Gypos, Chavs, fans being milked by corporations and whatever else, I'll kindly remind you that it's all trivial when kids are being blown up in Gaza. ;)

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Just so we don't lose track, we were discussing Balotelli....in the Calum Chambers thread for some reason. :shrug:
27-07-2014, 05:15 PM
Letters

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Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn

If somebody referred to an English player as a "chip eater" or a "roast beef" (a favourite with the French) then nobody would care.

Probably because the English are not a race who have been oppressed and discriminated against for much of their history.
The difference is pretty obvious.
27-07-2014, 05:16 PM
GP

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Originally Posted by Letters

Probably because the English are not a race who have been oppressed and discriminated against for much of their history.
The difference is pretty obvious.

Bloody chip eater.

Mmm, chips...
27-07-2014, 05:17 PM
Letters

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Originally Posted by Sterling Archer

Mmm, chips...

:gp:

Chips :bow:
27-07-2014, 05:29 PM
Niall_Quinn

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Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory

We've got social media for the stuff mainstream media want to leave out, but that's another story.

I don't know why you're bringing this sort of argument to a football forum and linking it to current affairs. It's out of context. Shit, the next time you want to moan about Maureen, the Gypos, Chavs, fans being milked by corporations and whatever else, I'll kindly remind you that it's all trivial when kids are being blown up in Gaza. ;)

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Just so we don't lose track, we were discussing Balotelli....in the Calum Chambers thread for some reason. :shrug:

You don't know why I'm bringing this here? Me? Wasn't me who linked that dumb article to Balotelli in a transfer thread, was it? Look elsewhere for the instigator. I hadn't mentioned anything bar transfers here until somebody brought up racism. But who?

Social media :haha: At least I assume you were joking.
27-07-2014, 05:34 PM
Niall_Quinn

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Originally Posted by Letters

Probably because the English are not a race who have been oppressed and discriminated against for much of their history.
The difference is pretty obvious.

I see, so it's not the principle that counts, it's the statistical application. Good to know. By the way, the very first slave owners were black. We copied them so successfully we surpassed the tutor.

Anyway, I'm happy not to dwell if people want to stop bringing stuff like this up in a transfer thread.
27-07-2014, 05:50 PM
Power n Glory

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Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn

You don't know why I'm bringing this here? Me? Wasn't me who linked that dumb article to Balotelli in a transfer thread, was it? Look elsewhere for the instigator. I hadn't mentioned anything bar transfers here until somebody brought up racism. But who?

Social media :haha: At least I assume you were joking.

ummm....because it links into what Syn said about Balotelli having a rough ride in the Italian league.:rolleyes:

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The only sympathy I have on that front is that I don't think anywhere he has been so far has had the right environment. Either in racist Italy or the Man City circus.

Yes, social media, old man. :oldboy: New media. We're in a generation where we can access information from alternative sources if we find the mainstream biased. But continue to patronise. ;) Enlighten us about 'real' racism.....but please do so in the 'general chat' thread. :good:
27-07-2014, 05:52 PM
GP

So... Callum Chambers...
27-07-2014, 05:52 PM
Power n Glory

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Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn

I see, so it's not the principle that counts, it's the statistical application. Good to know. By the way, the very first slave owners were black. We copied them so successfully we surpassed the tutor.

Anyway, I'm happy not to dwell if people want to stop bringing stuff like this up in a transfer thread.

Remarkable!
27-07-2014, 06:21 PM
Injury Time

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Originally Posted by Sterling Archer

So... Callum Chambers...

Racist :sulk:
27-07-2014, 06:43 PM
Letters

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Originally Posted by Sterling Archer

So... Callum Chambers...

Who?
27-07-2014, 06:50 PM
Niall_Quinn

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Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory

ummm....because it links into what Syn said about Balotelli having a rough ride in the Italian league.:rolleyes:

Yes, social media, old man. :oldboy: New media. We're in a generation where we can access information from alternative sources if we find the mainstream biased. But continue to patronise. ;) Enlighten us about 'real' racism.....but please do so in the 'general chat' thread. :good:

I'm confused now, is it Syn's fault or mine for you bringing up the whole racism thing?
27-07-2014, 07:05 PM
Niall_Quinn

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Originally Posted by Letters

Who?

Pretty much. Seen too many English wonderkids to get excited yet. Will wait to see what he does on the pitch.
27-07-2014, 10:17 PM
She Wore A Yellow Ribbon

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Originally Posted by Letters

Probably because the English are not a race who have been oppressed and discriminated against for much of their history.
The difference is pretty obvious.

12 Years A Letters :bow:
27-07-2014, 10:18 PM
Munchies

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UKzheaEhLno
27-07-2014, 10:20 PM
She Wore A Yellow Ribbon

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Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn

I'm confused now, is it Syn's fault or mine for you bringing up the whole racism thing?

Shut up you grape eater.
28-07-2014, 08:19 AM
Özim

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Originally Posted by Letters

It's just textbook Zim. For years he's been whining that Wenger 'refuses' to spend money (with some justification, it has to be said).
Now we have money available, Wenger's spending it so there go the goalposts and now he's complaining we are spending money.

:lol:

Really?

So tell me how much you know about this guy, I know about the likes of Shaw, Lallana etc but can't say I know anything about him. Hence my question about why we're paying 16 million for him, I think it's steep for a player who most know little about.
28-07-2014, 08:42 AM
Letters

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Originally Posted by Özim

Really?

Yeah. :good:
28-07-2014, 08:53 AM
Marc Overmars

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Originally Posted by Letters

Yeah. :good:

Think it was a fair enough comment really Letters.

Zim is often accused of seeing things in black and white but he's actually seen a shade grey here.
28-07-2014, 09:00 AM
Özim

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Originally Posted by Letters

Yeah. :good:

Thanks for being here.
28-07-2014, 09:27 AM
selassie

16million is a helluva lot of money for a relatively untried Full back who has only made 25 appearances in PL but it's not my money so who am I to complain. English tax added too so......

FWIW, I watched him a few times last season and he looked a very good young talent, sure he is not as flashy as Luke Shaw, but this kid seemed very mature in his play and defensively looked very sound, he's no slouch either. Looks quite versatile too, could definitely see him in Central Defence.

I suspect Wenger moved for him now before his stock rose any higher, we are talking about a potential 25mill + player here if he carried on putting in performances this season like he did last season.

I am happy to see us make signings like this, bringing in quality homegrown talent before they trade for uber money.
28-07-2014, 09:33 AM
Power n Glory

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Originally Posted by Marc Overmars

Think it was a fair enough comment really Letters.

Zim is often accused of seeing things in black and white but he's actually seen a shade grey here.

True. I think we've always been willing to spend on youth. Ox and Theo weren't cheap players. Ox was £12m up front then we had add ons which brings the fee up further.

I think with Callum we've just paid an up front fee without the add ons. If we're willing to pay a lot, Wenger really rates him.
28-07-2014, 09:37 AM
Letters

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Originally Posted by Marc Overmars

Think it was a fair enough comment really Letters.

It is a fair enough comment, it's just amusing (and others found it so too) to see it from someone whose default position is that everything Wenger and the club do is wrong.

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Originally Posted by Marc Overmars

Zim is often accused of seeing things in black and white but he's actually seen a shade grey here.

Just 49 to go then.
:rimshot:
28-07-2014, 09:42 AM
Munchies

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Originally Posted by Letters

Just 49 to go then.
:rimshot:

:lol:

They're making a film of it apparently
28-07-2014, 10:57 AM
She Wore A Yellow Ribbon

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Originally Posted by Marc Overmars

Think it was a fair enough comment really Letters.

Zim is often accused of seeing things in black and white but he's actually seen a shade grey here.

Fifty Shades of Zimm :bow:
28-07-2014, 02:26 PM
McNamara That Ghost...

http://www.arsenal.com/news/news-arc...ove-to-arsenal

Official! :bow:
28-07-2014, 02:44 PM
Marc Overmars

Welcome to the greatest club in the world. Good luck Calum.
28-07-2014, 02:48 PM
Munchies

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bto1NW3IQAIRamV.jpg
28-07-2014, 02:59 PM
The Emirates Gallactico

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Originally Posted by Munchies

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bto1NW3IQAIRamV.jpg

GHELS (+ 1 GHPL) for lyfe :bow::bow::bow:

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